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Gorgeous Dre
State War Academy
Caldari State
#81 - 2012-10-14 14:27:00 UTC
Tao Dolcino wrote:
I'm happy that the forums are moderated, for i have absolutely no trust in the wisdom of most humans.
The consumer society has made of most of us nothing better than capricious children.
If you want to behave without dignity go do that in private, i don't agree to let a public (public in the sense that every paying customer has the same equal access rights to this service) forum polluted by the whims of some frustrated brats (whatever your RL age, i speak here about maturity).
ISD people are humans, and are not perfect (you are ?), but i trust them much more than the average poster because they have to think twice before to use their keyboard.
Anarchy is not the mess, it's when you become wise enough to not need rules anymore. We are still very far from it. Sadly i even think that we are evoluating in the opposite direction.

You are not happy about ISD's moderation ? But look for a moment at what kind of "moderation" you "freedom warriors" bring daily in our forums : intolerance, insults, stupidity, vulgarity, wasting a post simply because it doesn't pleasse you... you are censoring much more that the ISD do, with agressivity, disdain, and all that based only on your egoist whims. Wonderful ambiance you are bringing by your contributions.
So, about your criticisms toward ISD : "First cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye".


ISD's shut down a joke thread the other day because people were "joke bashing" ISD's.


So no....they don't just moderate unruly behavior. They shut down perfectly legit threads simply because the OP is criticizing something in game that THEY like.
Gorgeous Dre
State War Academy
Caldari State
#82 - 2012-10-14 14:28:19 UTC
Oh and....InB4Lock...
ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#83 - 2012-10-14 14:33:12 UTC

Becka Goldbeck wrote:
People who eagerly volunteer their time to gain just a little bit of power, are usually prone to abuse it as it feeds their ego.


Becka Goldbeck wrote:

You don't need to feel any of those things to despise small people who lust for minuscule amounts of power. Though I'm not sure which is worse, them or people who desperately try to suck up to them.

I'm imagining a school crossing guard wearing his little badge and orange sash screaming at people on the sidewalk, and you on the side of the road clapping and applauding hoping he'll hold hands with you and walk you home.


Hi,

Let me make this absolutely clear for you; ISD practice due diligence and we take things such as favoritism incredibly seriously, Removal from ISD and GM investigation seriously.

For example, one of our most important rules is that we're not allowed to share our player names with each other, and it''s forbidden for someone to moderate a thread that their corp or alliance is involved in.

Now, you've used pretty much 1/3 of your total posts here to sling accusations at ISD. If you have something to say, then use the correct avenues, Petition the CCP team who manage us (using the Other Issues -> community category) or email the internal affairs team at CCP on internalaffairs@ccpgames.com

But, let me be absolutely clear and blunt with you. If you think any one of us does this job for this assumed 'modicum' of power that you think we have, you are absolutely and completely wrong.
I don't even know what power it is you think we have ? We can't do anything to your character, we can't ban or warn, we only touch forum posts and then only where they've broken the forum rules.

Give it a rest, harassing ISD staff is taken quite seriously and is dealt with by CCP who can and do, warn and ban people.

[b]ISD Suvetar Captain/Commando Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department[/b]
Malphilos
State War Academy
Caldari State
#84 - 2012-10-14 14:41:06 UTC
Becka Goldbeck wrote:
Malphilos wrote:
Becka Goldbeck wrote:
People who eagerly volunteer their time to gain just a little bit of power, are usually prone to abuse it as it feeds their ego.



So, what do we say about people who are then jealous and resentful of that "little bit of power"? How do their egos figure into things? Might they be so hurt that they become prone to abuse?

Blink


You don't need to feel any of those things to despise small people who lust for minuscule amounts of power.


Ah, the green monster. :)

I'm just amused that you would subject yourself to this abuse voluntarily, and then invent fantasies to defend your irrational actions.

You have no rights, you're not entitled, there's nothing you can do.

Suffer. Pirate
Becka Goldbeck
#85 - 2012-10-14 14:47:14 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Suvetar
Malphilos wrote:

Ah, the green monster. :)

I'm just amused that you would subject yourself to this abuse voluntarily, and then invent fantasies to defend your irrational actions.

You have no rights, you're not entitled, there's nothing you can do.

Suffer. Pirate


I have no clue as to what you're talking about but it's hilarious that posted right after the ISD.

Edit: Removed personal attack. - ISD Suvetar
Selinate
#86 - 2012-10-14 14:54:21 UTC
Reddit.
Kale Eledar
Venerated Industries
#87 - 2012-10-14 16:23:14 UTC
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Forum_rules

Considering we've probably all broken one ofof those at least once, we're probably getting off relatively easy.

Also, the amount of vitriol directed at ISD folks makes me think their presence isn't really driven by e-peen power. Bottom line is, if something in the thread breaks the thread rules, it's open for moderation. You'll just have to live with it. The only people who make the terms of service for these forums are CCP.

First come smiles, then lies. Last is gunfire.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#88 - 2012-10-14 17:12:41 UTC
Becka Goldbeck wrote:
Malphilos wrote:
Becka Goldbeck wrote:
People who eagerly volunteer their time to gain just a little bit of power, are usually prone to abuse it as it feeds their ego.



So, what do we say about people who are then jealous and resentful of that "little bit of power"? How do their egos figure into things? Might they be so hurt that they become prone to abuse?

Blink


You don't need to feel any of those things to despise small people who lust for minuscule amounts of power. Though I'm not sure which is worse, them or people who desperately try to suck up to them.

I'm imagining a school crossing guard wearing his little badge and orange sash screaming at people on the sidewalk, and you on the side of the road clapping and applauding hoping he'll hold hands with you and walk you home.


This post perfectly describes your mindset and motivations.

You do realize that a school crossing guard is usually someone who volunteers their time to keep children safe, and yet you view them as a petty dictator lusting for power. Big smileBig smileBig smile

So far your input on this sounds like the rhetoric that most of us spewed when we were rebellious 13 year old's, but once we came to understand that most rules are put in place for good reason end up apologizing to our parents for the idiotic things we said.

Their board, their moderation rules, their choice. People are free to post elsewhere if they have a different point of view.

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Zixie Draco
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#89 - 2012-10-14 17:23:25 UTC
I can't EVEN imagine an un-moderated forum in a game like EVE. These aren't (for the most part) little kids hurling 'you mom' jokes at each other... EVE forums are full of rocket scientists, business people, educators, military (boots and brass) folks, information technology geniuses and all around smartest, brightest, game players on the planet.

..imagine a no holds barred forum among these kinds?...I'm already crying and wanting my mommy just for thinking about it. :)

Would you like a kitten?

Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#90 - 2012-10-14 18:04:41 UTC
RAGE QU1T wrote:
Yes,

indeed this is not a troll, in light of today's activites by are fav ISD's with reigning brimstone and fire i am motivated in creating forums out of the jurisdiction of our favorite content control friends!


it's easy.

keep the sh!t out of your posts, they dont intefere.
its a concept so simple, even an 8yr old could understand it.
Wodensun
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#91 - 2012-10-14 18:20:15 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Suvetar
Becka Goldbeck wrote:
Malphilos wrote:

Ah, the green monster. :)

I'm just amused that you would subject yourself to this abuse voluntarily, and then invent fantasies to defend your irrational actions.

You have no rights, you're not entitled, there's nothing you can do.

Suffer. Pirate


I have no clue as to what you're talking about but it's hilarious that posted right after the ISD.


Oh please internet therapist. Every post you make in this thread only serves to show how foolish your notions are.

Show us ALL on the doll where the bad, evil, power hungry ISDs touched you.

Do not give me likes them 101 likes arent a accident...
Bernard 2007
The Scarlet Storm
#92 - 2012-10-14 18:28:21 UTC
ISD's and anyone else "Helping out" on this forum is about the worst thing I see in the game. Throwing out pointless and off-topic answers on a constant basis both here and ingame in the rookie channel under the pretense of having a ******* clue about what they're talking about.
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#93 - 2012-10-14 20:02:51 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Being entitled to provide feedback and make requests is different from being entitled to dictate policy.

If only providing feedback and making requests were in fact adhered to. Some feel that dictating policy is their right in life.

Can I stereotype here please? Can I? Can I?

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#94 - 2012-10-14 20:04:10 UTC
Webvan wrote:
Then add a thumbs-up/thumbs-down that hides posts with too many downs P

Be careful what you wish for.

Only posts left showing on the forums will be from certain, well-meaning and wonderful bunch of null-seccers Roll

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#95 - 2012-10-14 20:18:02 UTC
Hi,

I've just removed a couple of posts - I think it's pretty obvious as to why.
We don't like people building straw-man arguments, especially not it's to imply sexual predation of minors.

I think there's been enough insults and horrific connotations in this thread now, this constant harrasment has been reported to the community team.

Locked.

[b]ISD Suvetar Captain/Commando Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department[/b]