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Skaz
Skazmanian Industries
#61 - 2012-10-13 18:04:45 UTC
This discussion reminds me of this Roll

http://youtu.be/z5tZMDBXTRQ

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Malphilos
State War Academy
Caldari State
#62 - 2012-10-13 22:27:49 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:

You are wrong. I have the entitlement to make use of the product I paid for, as long as I don't break the EULA.


FYI, I'm pretty sure you didn't pay for the forums, and they can turn EVE off anytime they want and you can never use it again.

What you paid for is a limited license subject to CCP's approval.

You're "entitled" to squat.
Becka Goldbeck
#63 - 2012-10-13 23:11:20 UTC
Malphilos wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:

You are wrong. I have the entitlement to make use of the product I paid for, as long as I don't break the EULA.


FYI, I'm pretty sure you didn't pay for the forums, and they can turn EVE off anytime they want and you can never use it again.

What you paid for is a limited license subject to CCP's approval.

You're "entitled" to squat.



Good thing CCP has people like you and Ranger 1 as their internet legal defense team along with the ISD justice league. I don't know what they would do without you.

Maybe that can go on your gravestone

"Fought valiantly in defense of CCP's virtual property rights"

or

"Nobly volunteered to patrol an internet forum locking villainous threads"

That would be nice, it's a nice image at least.
Name Family Name
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#64 - 2012-10-14 01:25:48 UTC
Name Family Name wrote:



EDIT: Comparing CCP and the ISD to the Holocaust is most definitely against the EULA and Forum Rules - ISD Type40.



It's quite typical Kapos like you don't realize their shortcomings, of course I don't compare the holocaust to a gaming forum, yet the mode of action remains the same.
Arsedestroyer
Doomheim
#65 - 2012-10-14 01:45:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Arsedestroyer
Name Family Name wrote:

It's quite typical Kapos like you don't realize their shortcomings, of course I don't compare the holocaust to a gaming forum, yet the mode of action remains the same.




You're wrong - you assume isds to comprehend analogies. Prepare to be banned.
Malphilos
State War Academy
Caldari State
#66 - 2012-10-14 03:30:57 UTC
Becka Goldbeck wrote:
Good thing CCP has people like you and Ranger 1 as their internet legal defense team ....


I'm not defending anything, I'm laughing at the infantile notion of entitlement.

The righteous foot stomping amuses. Blink
Mirima Thurander
#67 - 2012-10-14 03:44:50 UTC
Malphilos wrote:
Becka Goldbeck wrote:
Good thing CCP has people like you and Ranger 1 as their internet legal defense team ....


I'm not defending anything, I'm laughing at the infantile notion of entitlement.

The righteous foot stomping amuses. Blink



Im glad someone still practice's the hidden arts, you keep at it till they catch on and i will get a good LoL out of it.

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
Opertone
State War Academy
Caldari State
#68 - 2012-10-14 03:58:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Opertone
oh nice! i support!

we do need a 'free for all' forum section - it would be lovely - you can redirect all hate and trolling there.

And aggression is one of man's primal needs. You do need to be bad and in fact it acts as a stress relief.

This post sums up why the 'best' work with DCM inc.

WARP DRIVE makes eve boring

really - add warping align time 300% on gun aggression and eve becomes great again
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#69 - 2012-10-14 03:58:20 UTC
Malphilos wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:

You are wrong. I have the entitlement to make use of the product I paid for, as long as I don't break the EULA.


FYI, I'm pretty sure you didn't pay for the forums, and they can turn EVE off anytime they want and you can never use it again.

What you paid for is a limited license subject to CCP's approval.

You're "entitled" to squat.

This is not how contract law works.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
usrevenge
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#70 - 2012-10-14 04:55:51 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
I'd actually like to see a "dark alley" forum section that has no moderation, but also limits posting to non-NPC-corp characters that have existed for at least a year.


i'd like this, the only moderation can be against unsafe links and RMT and stuff, let players vote to block or something which removes the post?
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#71 - 2012-10-14 06:04:44 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Malphilos wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:

You are wrong. I have the entitlement to make use of the product I paid for, as long as I don't break the EULA.


FYI, I'm pretty sure you didn't pay for the forums, and they can turn EVE off anytime they want and you can never use it again.

What you paid for is a limited license subject to CCP's approval.

You're "entitled" to squat.

This is not how contract law works.

Erm, actually, unless you are discussing an essential public utility, yes it is.

You pay for access to the service for a set period of time. If they choose to discontinue the service, they stop taking your money and the service is shut off after... or they offer compensation for unused time.

View the latest EVE Online developments and other game related news and gameplay by visiting Ranger 1 Presents: Virtual Realms.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#72 - 2012-10-14 06:05:52 UTC
Becka Goldbeck wrote:
Malphilos wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:

You are wrong. I have the entitlement to make use of the product I paid for, as long as I don't break the EULA.


FYI, I'm pretty sure you didn't pay for the forums, and they can turn EVE off anytime they want and you can never use it again.

What you paid for is a limited license subject to CCP's approval.

You're "entitled" to squat.



Good thing CCP has people like you and Ranger 1 as their internet legal defense team along with the ISD justice league. I don't know what they would do without you.

Maybe that can go on your gravestone

"Fought valiantly in defense of CCP's virtual property rights"

or

"Nobly volunteered to patrol an internet forum locking villainous threads"

That would be nice, it's a nice image at least.


Yes, it's true. There are actually a few adults that post on these forums.

View the latest EVE Online developments and other game related news and gameplay by visiting Ranger 1 Presents: Virtual Realms.
Tao Dolcino
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#73 - 2012-10-14 07:06:10 UTC
I'm happy that the forums are moderated, for i have absolutely no trust in the wisdom of most humans.
The consumer society has made of most of us nothing better than capricious children.
If you want to behave without dignity go do that in private, i don't agree to let a public (public in the sense that every paying customer has the same equal access rights to this service) forum polluted by the whims of some frustrated brats (whatever your RL age, i speak here about maturity).
ISD people are humans, and are not perfect (you are ?), but i trust them much more than the average poster because they have to think twice before to use their keyboard.
Anarchy is not the mess, it's when you become wise enough to not need rules anymore. We are still very far from it. Sadly i even think that we are evoluating in the opposite direction.

You are not happy about ISD's moderation ? But look for a moment at what kind of "moderation" you "freedom warriors" bring daily in our forums : intolerance, insults, stupidity, vulgarity, wasting a post simply because it doesn't pleasse you... you are censoring much more that the ISD do, with agressivity, disdain, and all that based only on your egoist whims. Wonderful ambiance you are bringing by your contributions.
So, about your criticisms toward ISD : "First cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye".
Becka Goldbeck
#74 - 2012-10-14 09:29:32 UTC
Tao Dolcino wrote:
I'm happy that the forums are moderated, for i have absolutely no trust in the wisdom of most humans.


Me neither. You're a good example

You do realize that moderators are human?

People who eagerly volunteer their time to gain just a little bit of power, are usually prone to abuse it as it feeds their ego. We see this all the time with petty functionaries in real life and the same it true with internet hall monitors (ISD).

Ranger 1 on his internet lawyering wrote:

Yes, it's true. There are actually a few adults that post on these forums.


See this guy agrees with me about ego and self-important delusion.
captain foivos
State War Academy
Caldari State
#75 - 2012-10-14 10:02:48 UTC  |  Edited by: captain foivos
I guess I clicked on the wrong thread. Really though, if you want some ISD free forums, and you have ten dollars, sign up for Something Awful.
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#76 - 2012-10-14 11:07:17 UTC
Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:
James Amril-Sperg wrote:
Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:
Ermm, just go to a non-CCP EVE forum.

k.com
failheap

Kugutsumen is censored sperg sperg sperg?
Eh, guess not sperg sperg sperg.

I didn't abbreviate it because of censorship, rather, because I didn't care to type it out and practically everybody knows what k.com refers to. Looks like you're the last one to get the memo.

Posting to confirm I had no idea by what you meant by "k.com"

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Malphilos
State War Academy
Caldari State
#77 - 2012-10-14 13:31:13 UTC
Becka Goldbeck wrote:
People who eagerly volunteer their time to gain just a little bit of power, are usually prone to abuse it as it feeds their ego.



So, what do we say about people who are then jealous and resentful of that "little bit of power"? How do their egos figure into things? Might they be so hurt that they become prone to abuse?

Blink
Becka Goldbeck
#78 - 2012-10-14 14:18:32 UTC
Malphilos wrote:
Becka Goldbeck wrote:
People who eagerly volunteer their time to gain just a little bit of power, are usually prone to abuse it as it feeds their ego.



So, what do we say about people who are then jealous and resentful of that "little bit of power"? How do their egos figure into things? Might they be so hurt that they become prone to abuse?

Blink


You don't need to feel any of those things to despise small people who lust for minuscule amounts of power. Though I'm not sure which is worse, them or people who desperately try to suck up to them.

I'm imagining a school crossing guard wearing his little badge and orange sash screaming at people on the sidewalk, and you on the side of the road clapping and applauding hoping he'll hold hands with you and walk you home.
Undeniable Chuck
LowKey Ops
Snuffed Out
#79 - 2012-10-14 14:25:09 UTC
They really need the fiery cesspit on Eve-O.
Gorgeous Dre
State War Academy
Caldari State
#80 - 2012-10-14 14:25:23 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
I'd actually like to see a "dark alley" forum section that has no moderation, but also limits posting to non-NPC-corp characters that have existed for at least a year.



I like how you make a list of criteria that YOU conveniently already meet.