Market Discussions

I pull out my handy windows calculator (click start type " Calc ")and punch in these numbers:

6.5
*
X=8
= 52

Thats 8 hours a day, at 6.5 million Interstellar Kredits which comes to 52M isk
Total Ingame time, 8 hours, Total time actually paying attention, 3 min every hour, 24 min total time taken out of my productive RW time (myself personally maybe 10 min)

52 times y=30 = ?

If you where to make X 4 hours, you could divide the final result by half
In other words, X= any number between Zero and 24
Y= any number between 1 and 30

Do please tell us more, how to make 240M per month.

the only thing that bothers me, is WHY would you mine at all if 240M is your final product?
Why not run missions with your precious little gametime, you could be making 40M per hour in a Max Tank salvager fitted rattlesnake, 500-600 DPS, Get a Mach or pally and you could make more.
<-- Flys rattler/Pally(soon to add Mach to the Tally) Rattle is highly recommended for Beginning mission runners, only thing is, don't bother undocking with less the 365 DPS.

I think the prices are going to remain fairly stable for minerals, although I do have to warn you, that High ends have a fair chance of rising, Market Sentiment has high faith that this may really become a reality.

Multiple high profile Marketeers have also noted their opinions about high ends, so don't be surprised if you see prices double or triple.

(NOT WRITTEN IN STONE:) The hearsay on the streets is: upcoming patch also notes that, after taking agro, one will no longer be able to log off, have their ship warp in a random direction and disappear instantly, no more, you log off with agro, you lose your ship to the intruder of the system that you wanted to avoid, botting will not be so lucrative any more, supply will take a dip in the form of Less finished products on the markets, forcing large alliances to BUY MORE FURNISHED GOODS IN JITA.
would be a Spectacular move by CCP.

Never the Less, Mining will be turned over back to actual players, this now has a Direct effect on PLEX prices, We cant go shooting PLEX prices up like we did every year, we must be a little bit more careful to hide the bubbles we make in this bathtub, else some one else will help stink up the water for you(irresponsible investor) to smell to.

Investors/CCP any and all possible parties should be more responsible, CCP should now pay closer attention since PLEX/Mineral prices comparison, basing their numbers for average time active Miners actually mine.

I was tinkering around with Idea's and I was thinking, Maybe, CCP could set up their OFFICIAL market bot ( CCP INGAME BROKER) of some sort, and players would no longer Sell PLEX to other players directly, but to the CCP bot, or "Broker" the Broker would then decide How many to sell and When and to Whom, this may be the perfect market regulation, but even I would have questions on weather such a direct attempt on such a sensitive item would trigger unwanted results and player outcry, to stop taking bits of the sandbox away.

CCP would have to allocate resources in designing, testing deploying upkeep and Public communications regarding any notable movement.

This market tool could also be implicated for other things, like using it as a weapon against any one to smart, and as a weapon of fear, just letting people know, that CCP can take full or partial control of the market system at will without disrupting gameplay should be enough deterrent.

Market stability is dearly important, because 1 item, depending on its actual usefulness, could trigger waves, or worst case scenario, a market Tsunami (panic)
Minerals, PLEX and to an extent, maybe even BLUEPRINTS deserve to be on the list.

an Example.
Lets say your main source of income, became unstable, fluctuating between a 50% value plunge and 150% shifting back and fro, completly without warning, controlled by a marketeer who times it to drop when people usually sell their goods and 150 for all other times, Wouldn't that suck? now lets add Fluctuating PLEX prices, that could make it even worse.

Investors are Diverse, we only benefit from market fluctuation the harder it fluctuates the more ISK there is to make, there should be limits and unwritten rules, OLD law and rule methods are only meant to be broken, this is litarally the golden rule, you make BIG money in real life and the same thing goes for the eve markets when you .

I also want to point out, That I didn't make any ISK and wont make any ISK (aside slightly lower PLEX prices, not high enough to even mention figures)
as far as im concerned, I stand to potentially lose ISK by speaking my mind.

Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about. I doubt that you have even spent more than a few days mining before you grabbed the calculator and started making these "predictions" about how you can make billions a month in afk mining. It is possible, but you will quit eve before you see the first few billions due to massive boredom. If not, good for you. I need more cheap minerals anyhow ;)

The effect you are claiming which will destroy eves market is not there.

You are really lost with your speculation ideas. Lots of ore is being mined right now. I mean 4 times more ore than normal.
And still the miners can not fill the demand. It is speculation about the winter update yes. But not what you posted.
And no I will not tell you. The demand for minerals will drop by a huge very huge amount after the winter update.

Only then will mineral prices crash. It might take until the next summer update before demand returns to the market place.
This really has no bearing on how many miners there are. It has everything to do with spec building programs. And market demand for those spec built products. And future demand going forward is what will spur a renewed demand for minerals.
That is in question yet. Depends on how much over building happens during this spec building cycle.

Winter update is scheduled for Dec 5th. We shall see then.

Here's my theory:

They're trying to make minerals more valuable by annoying lazy miners into other jobs.

...I just won Eve, didn't I?

Dec 4th, but I don't see what the winter update has to do with it. Outside of the mining frigate, literally nothing is changing about mining, that I'm aware of.

Well, I've made too many pointlessly cryptic posts in the past to fault you for one of your own.