Warfare & Tactics

If you cannot afford to lose it, dont use it. If you dont -want- to lose, but can afford it, dont do PvP in it.

Really its that simple. Why jumping from "expandable" to "f****ing expensive? Try a HAC. Its rather cheap, fast enough to evade smaller Camps and still tanky enough in many cases.

We don't understand each other. I can afford it and I am not afraid of loosing it. I was flying cheaper ships and by cheaper I mean HACs, cruisers, battlecruisers, bombers etc. What I am asking for is how can I be more effective and not using scouts on every corner.

Vaga might not be a bad idea. I park my loki for a while and try it.

Yeah, the armour Loki is a little too slow for the work you are trying to make it do, it will just get horribly blobbed, I would say the Cyna or Vaga are a better choice.

If you are worried about being catched by large fleet at a gate camp webs don't help you. In low sec agility is the way to go to avoid such situations. Armor setups tend to be not very agile. With regards to agility Shield Cynabal and Stabber Fleet Issue are king. Then comes Vagabond and then a Shield Loki with agility component.

I tried Vaga yesterday. It was fun at first, but than I got interceptor and few frigs on the gate. I got me out alive but In situations like this I realy miss web. Rapier sounds like a better idea.

I haven't played in a while, but moving out of frigs into something else while soloing "soutless" gets pretty expensive. I'd suggest not using a Loki as you will just get baited & ganked.

Personally for scout less solo PVP, I preferred the Shield Rupture, Small gun/Armor Vexor & AML Caracal for cruises & Shield / AC Hurricanes and possibly the dual plated/dual rep small gun Myrm for BC's.

The Shield Rupture & Cane were more as fast moving gank ships & the Vexor & Myrm were more for brawlers in low traffic space. Caracal just for anti frig but I'd assume with all the frig buff's lately they are less effective.

As far as second accounts and scouts.. You can also go the route of tag team dual accounts. I used to run tag team Nanno Drakes on two accounts with no scout.. I used this set up to run FW missions quite often, so I could farm some ISK and get some PVP while I traveled around. Usually PVP was from pies and not so much from FW guys.

TBH the only reason I stopped flying solo Shield canes & Myrms or tag teaming Drakes was because it got too expensive when BC were 80mil+/- a pop fully fitted.

Stabber fleet issue relatively cheap, near vaga performance , should do for some solo work.

If you can't afford to lose it, don't undock it.

Soloing without a scout is perfectly fine, as long as you know the area, have an exit strategy, pick and choose your battles, and use all the available intel sources (like the starmap statistics).

I solo almost exclusively... most of the time. But I still hit targets of opportunity, even if it means I'm 'blobbing'.