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Tachyons vs Rail Cannons
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Ionia Leonforte
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-10-12 15:36:31 UTC
In terms of aggressive damage dealing, what is generally seen as the more destructive?

Pros and Cons for each? I'm sure there are alot of opinions on this!

Looking to get into some long range death-dealing and was curious what most people would rather fit for some good old fashioned low sec PvP hunting.

Debating to use either a Nightmare with a cap buddy or something else... advice? Opinions? Angry outburst for wanting to PvP in a NM? Pirate
Jose Black
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-10-12 16:06:00 UTC
I'd buy a second 1400 pest for the cap buddy. That way you wouldn't even need to care about cap anymore and have the probably most agressive form of damage dealing: a sick alpha strike. On top of that both of the ships will be cheap compared to a NM.
Goldensaver
Maraque Enterprises
Just let it happen
#3 - 2012-10-12 16:09:56 UTC
How long of range are we talking? Like 50-60km "might as well be using Mega Pulses with Scorch" range, or 150+km "Sebo'd, TE'd, Aurora'd Oracle" range?
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-10-12 16:14:38 UTC
Flying a Nightmare around low sec?

Are you trying to draw everyone with an intel channel for like three regions?
Zyella Stormborn
Green Seekers
#5 - 2012-10-12 17:21:26 UTC
Onictus wrote:
Flying a Nightmare around low sec?

Are you trying to draw everyone with an intel channel for like three regions?



QFT.

While a NM is a great ship, you MUST know how big a target you are going to makeAttentionAttention

If you want long range tachyon sunbeams, go with an Oracle. So much cheaper, and such a beautiful thing to see in action with damage performance similar if not better.
Also much faster, easier to try and get away with, and does not draw 1/10th of the attention that a billion isk+ non cloaking non T3 ship is going to draw.

I love the idea of pvp in marauders, faction BS, etc, but sadly in the current state of things, since everyone else tries to fly as cheaply as possible, you show up like a neon pinata to them. ;(

~Z

There is a special Hell for people like that, Right next to child molestors, and people that talk in the theater. ~Firefly
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-10-12 19:29:33 UTC
Zyella Stormborn wrote:
Onictus wrote:
Flying a Nightmare around low sec?

Are you trying to draw everyone with an intel channel for like three regions?



QFT.

While a NM is a great ship, you MUST know how big a target you are going to makeAttentionAttention

If you want long range tachyon sunbeams, go with an Oracle. So much cheaper, and such a beautiful thing to see in action with damage performance similar if not better.
Also much faster, easier to try and get away with, and does not draw 1/10th of the attention that a billion isk+ non cloaking non T3 ship is going to draw.

I love the idea of pvp in marauders, faction BS, etc, but sadly in the current state of things, since everyone else tries to fly as cheaply as possible, you show up like a neon pinata to them. ;(

~Z



Specially when you can do the same job with a tier 3 BC and GTFO with the best of them.
Hakaimono
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-10-13 08:38:36 UTC
Oracle and Tornado
That there is a dynamic duo.
Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-10-15 03:52:50 UTC
Hakaimono wrote:
Oracle and Tornado
That there is a dynamic duo.


You have batman and robin there ...



But think about if you take Tornado + Tornado ... you would have Batman and a second Batman !
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#9 - 2012-10-15 10:35:43 UTC
Ionia Leonforte wrote:
In terms of aggressive damage dealing, what is generally seen as the more destructive?

Pros and Cons for each? I'm sure there are alot of opinions on this!

Looking to get into some long range death-dealing and was curious what most people would rather fit for some good old fashioned low sec PvP hunting.

Debating to use either a Nightmare with a cap buddy or something else... advice? Opinions? Angry outburst for wanting to PvP in a NM? Pirate



Try using an Oracle first if you want to practice with Tachs. Once you've lost about as many Oracles as your first Nightmare would cost, Reform your opinions.

PS It's not wrong to have a PvP Nightmare. If it is, I'm wrong too.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Capt George Amberleaf
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-10-15 13:33:28 UTC
Tachs are great.

short range incredible damage @ 5km to 50km. Long range ....decent damage at 100km

and no ammo is nice
Bernard 2007
The Scarlet Storm
#11 - 2012-10-15 14:11:55 UTC
Cedo Nulli wrote:
Hakaimono wrote:
Oracle and Tornado
That there is a dynamic duo.


You have batman and robin there ...



But think about if you take Tornado + Tornado ... you would have Batman and a second Batman !


I prefer blaster fit Talos, 1400+ DPS Joker Style! xD
Mar Mite
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-10-16 10:11:29 UTC
a nightmare for low sec pvp? I'm very space-jealous! you need to find something better to do with your isk.
Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#13 - 2012-10-16 13:48:47 UTC
Mar Mite wrote:
a nightmare for low sec pvp? I'm very space-jealous! you need to find something better to do with your isk.


Yeah, make an investment in the international bank of metal icarus! We don't store your money, we just put it to good use!