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Cloaking Revisited- game balancing- AFK cloakers
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Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#81 - 2012-10-10 11:56:55 UTC
I was going to read this thread from beginning to end and then pick up where I left off in the other AFK cloaky threads and point out how ridiculous most of these ideas against cloaking are.But I got two pages in and saw only two posts supporting the OPer.

Even if your idea was incredible, which it isn't, you have an overwhelming number of people against the idea (Something most anti-cloaking threads have). Something CCP will take into consideration whenever deciding if a gameplay change needs to be made.

Basically, by overwhelming popular demand, this will never happen. Pehaps you should just let this thread die, and give space for better ideas on the front page of the Features & Ideas Discussion page.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf
Mr Floydy
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#82 - 2012-10-10 12:31:34 UTC
Dear nullbears. You can have you're fancy ability to scan down cloaked ships when I get the ability to remove myself from your precious intel gathering local chat channel.
I love how apparently me being cloaked and watching what you are doing in nullsec is considered horrendously imbalanced, yet you being able to sit in station where I can't do anything to you, where you're able to see I'm in local (zomg free intel you should have to work for it) is absolutely fine.

There is already a way to hunt and kill cloaked ships. We do it in wormholes all the time, we also do it without having to have a local chat channel to say they're there.
Sit and run a combat site in a baity ship that might lure the guy to shoot you - then bring your friends in and blow the crap out of them :)

It's not rocket science.
Witchking Angmar
Perkele.
#83 - 2012-10-10 12:35:44 UTC
Change local to constellation wide.
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#84 - 2012-10-10 13:15:56 UTC
Witchking Angmar wrote:
Change local to constellation wide.


+1
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#85 - 2012-10-10 13:32:50 UTC
usually write long stuff....too lazy. the abridged version

Jump to new system.
Does not follow, rat or mine there
profit

AFK is not following you (not there). Actually there thinks you are unworthy of the cyno drop or thinks you are bait. Either way he ain't jumping the gate and you have 1 clean system. Enjoy.

Even empire bears migrate systems to make their damn isk ffs.
Cpt Arareb
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#86 - 2012-10-10 13:43:05 UTC
Jint Hikaru wrote:
Now, if you are really trying to stop AFK cloaking, and not nerf all cloaks..... (because it sure seems like you simple want to nerf all cloaks), I propose the following.

Simply remove cloakers from local. And deny that cloaker local.

- Now cloaks are really cloaked.

- Now AFK Cloaking cannot cause any fear.

- Now active cloakers have to work for more intel or to find targets. (like decloak or use probes)

- Now system residents have to pay a little more attention to whats going on around them.

- Now (if done correctly) BOTs can be caught.


you nail it! +1
Panchatantra
Bunnie Slayers
#87 - 2012-10-10 13:47:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Panchatantra
Mr Floydy wrote:
Dear nullbears. You can have you're fancy ability to scan down cloaked ships when I get the ability to remove myself from your precious intel gathering local chat channel.


Deal!

Local blows!

And I am not very fond of warp gates either- let me micro jump to the next system while cloaked.
(yep I am actually for that)

Changing local to constellation.. -1

Then it will be packed with boring chatter, I had many new friends by chatting in local. Let local be something you can opt in to join. I.e wormhole style

Arduemont wrote:
Pehaps you should just let this thread die, and give space for better ideas on the front page of the Features & Ideas Discussion page.


Never! Death to meta gaming!
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#88 - 2012-10-10 15:29:40 UTC
Robert Caldera wrote:
Witchking Angmar wrote:
Change local to constellation wide.


+1


-1

Just.... don't get me started on this.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#89 - 2012-10-10 15:37:21 UTC
Panchatantra wrote:
Mr Floydy wrote:
Dear nullbears. You can have you're fancy ability to scan down cloaked ships when I get the ability to remove myself from your precious intel gathering local chat channel.


Deal!

Local blows!

And I am not very fond of warp gates either- let me micro jump to the next system while cloaked.
(yep I am actually for that)

Changing local to constellation.. -1

Then it will be packed with boring chatter, I had many new friends by chatting in local. Let local be something you can opt in to join. I.e wormhole style

Arduemont wrote:
Pehaps you should just let this thread die, and give space for better ideas on the front page of the Features & Ideas Discussion page.


Never! Death to meta gaming!


1) Hell no

2) Its "Stargates" not warp gates....

3) Microwarp, Warp, Microjump or Jump to other systems... No real complaints with that. Except that:
-Jumping (FTL travel) will be near instant.
-Microjumping will be slower than jumping.
-Warping will take you a long time.
-Microwarping will take you forever.

Keep stargates around, but allow you to do as you please, be it instant stargates, near instant jumping or bridging, or if you'd like to struggle for a few days to get somewhere.....

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#90 - 2012-10-10 15:37:25 UTC
Panchatantra wrote:
Local blows!

And I am not very fond of warp gates either- let me micro jump to the next system while cloaked.
(yep I am actually for that)

Changing local to constellation.. -1

Then it will be packed with boring chatter, I had many new friends by chatting in local. Let local be something you can opt in to join. I.e wormhole style

This thread may interest you, if you have not seen it already.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=156965&find=unread

I am all for local to be used exclusively to chat and be social with.

It's a proven fact that intel gathering by using local chat has a chilling effect on this social aspect.
Quite simply, who wants to be noticed when so many eyes are using it to pick targets?

Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence What if Local Chat changed, Hunting the Cloaked...
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#91 - 2012-10-12 00:34:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Trinkets friend
I paid 2.85 BILLION ******* ISK for my ******* PANTHER so you DICKBAGS can **** OFF with your useless crybaby cockgobbling bullshit "stop ship cloaking after X time"so it stops me from killing your ******* 80M ISK Drake.

Seriously. If CCP does what you idiots suggest, I want all my level 5 Black Ops, Jump Cal 5 and all Battleship 5 skill points back, pronto, because if Black Ops BS aren't already hard enough to use, any change to cloaking will effectively destroy their use.

~~ Localectomy Blog ~~
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#92 - 2012-10-12 13:15:41 UTC
Trinkets friend wrote:
I paid 2.85 BILLION ******* ISK for my ******* PANTHER so you DICKBAGS can **** OFF with your useless crybaby cockgobbling bullshit "stop ship cloaking after X time"so it stops me from killing your ******* 80M ISK Drake.

Seriously. If CCP does what you idiots suggest, I want all my level 5 Black Ops, Jump Cal 5 and all Battleship 5 skill points back, pronto, because if Black Ops BS aren't already hard enough to use, any change to cloaking will effectively destroy their use.


this man is angry.
for a good reason.
Panchatantra
Bunnie Slayers
#93 - 2012-10-13 05:48:07 UTC
I fly black ops too - and I think they should be able to fit a Cov ops cloak
Angeal MacNova
Holefood Inc.
Warriors of the Blood God
#94 - 2012-10-13 06:13:24 UTC
AFK cloaking.....

Doesn't the game boot you if don't give some input into the game after so much time?


10 min without doing something in game (can be anything, using the in game browser, checking market prices, etc.) and you get logged out. Your ship flies off as per norm and you stay cloaked for now. You have 10 min on top of that to reconnect (if you had a network crash) and log back in or your ship is now no longer cloaked.

http://www.projectvaulderie.com/goodnight-sweet-prince/

http://www.projectvaulderie.com/the-untold-story/

CCP's true, butthurt, colors.

Because those who can't do themselves keep others from doing too.
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#95 - 2012-10-13 12:25:43 UTC
Angeal MacNova wrote:
Doesn't the game boot you if don't give some input into the game after so much time?

no, which is right way to do it. If I wouldnt need it, I wouldnt be logged it.