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Qui Lani
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-10-11 06:52:42 UTC
I have a few questions;

Is it possible to solo all sites in a C3? And if so, do I need to warp out at all or can I stay for the duration of each site? Are the biggest threats the sleepers that scram and I should take those out first? And do people have a recommended fitting for a C3? Non-pimped preferred . And when I get the cash, I can a more pimped version
Swordfingers
The Swollen Horse Society
#2 - 2012-10-11 07:59:13 UTC
You should be able to do all of the C3 sites (even mags/radars) if you know the triggers and have good skills, in a T2 fit tengu. Try something like this:

[Tengu, c3 t2 tengu]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Power Diagnostic System II

Large Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Gravitational Capacitor
Sum Olgy
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-10-11 08:06:11 UTC
Yes, you can solo all C3 sites in a Tengu.

You may need to warp out...
1. If you don't manage aggro - use a site like this one until you know the spawns and triggers off by heart - http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=WormholeSpaceClass3
2. You approach getting neuted out, as you'll be active tanked


Something like a 600dps tank and >75% omni resists would be a good starting point. There's loads of suggested fits so you'll have to do a little bit of searching as I don't know your skills and budget. Or just play around with pyfa or eft. Have an alt that salvages/pickets etc - it's much more efficient.

Learn to manage aggro properly or you will die in a fire, especially in the mag sites. Although plan on getting ganked as part of your life in wormhole space, as solo tengus running sites in C3s are manna from heaven for many many WH corps/alliances. So have fun and don't take it personally when(not if...) you get podded back to k space. Smile
Kalel Nimrott
Caldari Provisions
#4 - 2012-10-11 10:59:26 UTC
Swordfingers wrote:
You should be able to do all of the C3 sites (even mags/radars) if you know the triggers and have good skills, in a T2 fit tengu. Try something like this:

[Tengu, c3 t2 tengu]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Power Diagnostic System II

Large Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Gravitational Capacitor


My guess is that the hardest mag/rad will drain you cap fast with that fit.

Bob Artis, you will be missed.

O7
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-10-11 11:15:30 UTC
Yes Tengu's can be fit to easily solo all anoms in a C3. The radar's and all but the hardest mag can be solo'd. The hardest mag is tough even with 2 Tengu's as the last wave maxes out around 1300dps. It can be done but it is slow and dangerous with many warpouts until you can drop some DPS. (I actually hit approach by accident once on a wreck which screwed my align and by the time i re-aligned and warped off i was in 50% armor).

If fit for range neuts are a non-issues. The only neuts that hurt are the Sleepless upholders and their neut range max is about 71km.
Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#6 - 2012-10-11 20:34:32 UTC
Swordfingers wrote:
You should be able to do all of the C3 sites (even mags/radars) if you know the triggers and have good skills, in a T2 fit tengu. Try something like this:

[Tengu, c3 t2 tengu]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Power Diagnostic System II

Large Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Gravitational Capacitor


I think you're missing a 10mn mwd?

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .
Judo Chopped
GET TO DA CHOPPER
#7 - 2012-10-12 15:06:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Judo Chopped
Kalel Nimrott wrote:
Swordfingers wrote:
You should be able to do all of the C3 sites (even mags/radars) if you know the triggers and have good skills, in a T2 fit tengu. Try something like this:

[Tengu, c3 t2 tengu]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Power Diagnostic System II

Large Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Gravitational Capacitor


My guess is that the hardest mag/rad will drain you cap fast with that fit.


Not even the hardest ones. Cap neuting can be quite mean in C3's. If you're solo'ing you may have up to 2 battleships and 3 or 4 cruisers all cap neuting you at the same time.
I much prefer a passive tank that can regen its shield quickly. Namely using shield relays, T2 purger rigs and the only active part would be the adaptive nano's. You can easy get to something like 150 shield HP/s regen - which is plenty.

You also don't need to worry too much about warp scrambling, it only happens in a couple of the sites (solar cells for example) and it's never really a problem. In fact, the frigs that do warp scram are usually the trigger to the next wave, so it actually makes sense to leave the scramming frigs for a bit (potentially more dangerous I know....).

And finally, you don't really need a pimped T3 for running C3's solo. T2 fits are more than capable.

**Edit**
Oh and you don't need an afterburner or MWD. Use the mid slot for something more useful, like more tank.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-10-12 16:16:45 UTC
Judo Chopped wrote:
Not even the hardest ones. Cap neuting can be quite mean in C3's. If you're solo'ing you may have up to 2 battleships and 3 or 4 cruisers all cap neuting you at the same time.
I much prefer a passive tank that can regen its shield quickly. Namely using shield relays, T2 purger rigs and the only active part would be the adaptive nano's. You can easy get to something like 150 shield HP/s regen - which is plenty.

You also don't need to worry too much about warp scrambling, it only happens in a couple of the sites (solar cells for example) and it's never really a problem. In fact, the frigs that do warp scram are usually the trigger to the next wave, so it actually makes sense to leave the scramming frigs for a bit (potentially more dangerous I know....).

And finally, you don't really need a pimped T3 for running C3's solo. T2 fits are more than capable.

**Edit**
Oh and you don't need an afterburner or MWD. Use the mid slot for something more useful, like more tank.


Are you guys serious? The neuting in C3's is a joke. Well, put it this way, it is a joke unless you are the type to warp to zero to the site and then not move.

There is one anom that has 4 neuting cruisers (oruze) that have the potential to hurt, but they die really fast and once you are down to 2 you are perfectly fine as long as you have a decently cap stable fit.

The other sites the only neuting danger is the Sleepless upholders. And they are only an issue if you don't keep range. But they only neut out to 71km and even a half crappy tengu pilot should be able to hit out to 100km.

I typically dual box two of these, but it can also solo all of the anoms easily (which I do when I need scouts on 2 active WH's). On the hardest Mag site (recursive depot) I do have to stagger warpouts until I get down to 2 upholders on the last wave.

I have never, not even once, gotten capped out.

[Tengu, Planet V lvl 4 WH]

Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Damage Control II
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

10MN Afterburner II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Gistum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
EM Ward Field II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Kalel Nimrott
Caldari Provisions
#9 - 2012-10-12 17:37:45 UTC
T2 rigs. You should go to another thread to post this.

Bob Artis, you will be missed.

O7
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-10-12 18:00:03 UTC
Kalel Nimrott wrote:
T2 rigs. You should go to another thread to post this.


Meh,

44mil rigs arent "pimp". Honestly I set them up before knowing much about running C3 sites. I could get by fine with T1 rigs in hindsight, since it is super easy to simply stay outside of neut range anyhow.