EVE General Discussion

This post does nothing but attack a specific playstyle. There are others like it.

There is no information presented here. No question asked. This is pure prejudice and nothing more.

It's also a strawman, as we are not prisoners. We are people trying to play a game set in a cold, harsh universe where "HTFU" has always been the mantra.

Feel free to put bountys on your favourite targets and concord will not even come to defend them.

What more do you want?
Do you want CCP to change rat belt ships for mining barges?

This is purely misinformation. You should feel bad.

So you're bored out in 0.0 with nothing to shoot and you think coming here and putting down on High Sec dwellers will solve your problem.

Oh me.

I've played since Castor, Lived in High Sec for a year or so until I got a foundation under me (isk, ships, skills), and then I....I said I decided to take the plunge to 0.0. It wasn't because I was bored in HighSec, or because some doucher was stealing my ore, or someone was popping my miners, it was because I wanted to be something more in game.

Guess what......not EVERYONE in Eve wants to live in 0.0. SURPRISE!

Crazy stuff huh, that someone might want to play the game differently than you?

It's post like this that make people want to stay in high sec, because you sound like an Elitist Doucher.

I lived in 0.0 for several years and hell even had stations named after me, but at some point it got old so I came back to high sec. When I'm ready I'll move back to 0.0.....it will be because once again I made another decision, and it won't be because I was forced.

See how that works?

So you're bored out in 0.0 with nothing to shoot and you think coming here and putting down on High Sec dwellers will solve your problem.

Oh me.

You completely missed the point of this thread. The point is that risk has been gradually decreased in highsec to the point that there is close to no risk for almost all professions. This is not healthy for EVE and must be resolved. It can be resolved in two ways consistent with EVE's core ideas: reducing reward in highsec or increasing risk in highsec. If you read the title you'll see which this thread focuses on.

I've played since Castor, Lived in High Sec for a year or so until I got a foundation under me (isk, ships, skills), and then I....I said I decided to take the plunge to 0.0. It wasn't because I was bored in HighSec, or because some doucher was stealing my ore, or someone was popping my miners, it was because I wanted to be something more in game.

Good that's part of the idea behind the game, people want more of any commodity so they move to an area where it is more freely available.

Guess what......not EVERYONE in Eve wants to live in 0.0. SURPRISE!

Perfectly fine but their reward should not be equal to mine out in nullsec.

Crazy stuff huh, that someone might want to play the game differently than you?

If only every highsec pubbie understood this.

It's post like this that make people want to stay in high sec, because you sound like an Elitist Doucher.

Now you are just being a moron.

I lived in 0.0 for several years and hell even had stations named after me, but at some point it got old so I came back to high sec. When I'm ready I'll move back to 0.0.....it will be because once again I made another decision, and it won't be because I was forced.

See how that works?


See we aren't trying to force anyone into nullsec we just want the game to return to a focus on risk:reward. If I do a high risk activity like ratting in nullsec I should reap reward than I could in the highest risk highsec activity. Unfortunately incredibly low risk activities in highsec like mission running make comparable reward to high risk activities when they clearly shouldn't.

Basically with the current trend in changes people are being FORCED out of nullsec and into highsec because the risk is lower yet the reward is the same. I respect that you do not want to be forced into nullsec and I expect you to respect that I do not want to be forced into highsec. The easiest way to balance this problem without a stupid wow-like power creep is to decrease the reward in highsec yet that is not what this thread is about.

The most ret@rded idea ever. I would never mission in Low or Null. If I was forced to then I'd just quit. I like my PVE and PVP to be distinct and I only like to engage in PVP when it suits me to do so.

I'm sure I'm not alone in that view.

Why? Why can't you accept that people might like to stay in HighSec? There's no need for them to leave and they shouldn't be forced to.

Such delicious tears. Cuddle?

I don't accept this. Why would I want to take one of my multi-billion ISK mission ships into Low/Null just for some lame cheesers to blow me up and steal my loot? That's not fun or enjoyable to me. It's happened once and I won't do it again. I'm quite happy running missions in HighSec and joining RvB when I want to PVP. I don't see why that should change just to cater to the whims of those who are butthurt that me and others like me won't present ourselves as targets for griefers.

Theres plenty of risk in hisec

You can be wardecced
You can be ganked
You can get a socket error mid-mission

all working as intended.





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cept the last one, i doubt ccp do that deliberately ...