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They are not the same, but the scenario plays in the same way. You don;t need the kill right to claim a bounty,m you just need the final blow on his killmail.

Speaking as someone who is way into negative sec status territory, I'd love to see Bounty Hunting and Pirate Hunting blossom as career choices. Some questions/comments/suggestions:

1) New kill right mechanics are cool. However, the way kill rights will be accrued in the new system means they'll be a lot less common. Kill rights will be given "only for attacks in hi-sec and pod-kills in low-sec." This means hi-sec gankers and outlaws in low-sec. The latter population tends to live in low-sec, where they can be shot regardless of suspect flagging, so this big new mechanic will really only affect hi-sec gankers. It'd be nice if there were more kill rights going around.

2) Could you elaborate on the 'Private Bounty' system? Creating private bounty contracts seems like a great boon to the PC mercenary industry.

3) I like the sentiment that you want to make bounty hunting a career choice in its own right. I'm skeptical whether the bounty ecology will be large enough to truly call it a career, however. It'd be nice if Bounty Hunters had some tools that assisted their endeavors. Perhaps map search functions for high bounty sightings, or something similar to an agent finder, where they can locate high-bounty capsuleers in their region.

4) With the new UI changes coming into effect, activating a kill right on someone should trigger some notable graphical ping so everyone on grid knows that someone just went suspect.

5) This is the expansion where you should release trenchcoats, fedoras, and long-brimmed hats.

While this is all really really cool

And it is,

I do hope CCP aren't releasing more than you have the ability to patch/polish. Because just the changes that have been announced so far will change eve more than it has changed since.. The nano nerf?

I think the change might actually be far greater then that. The crimewatch changes will COMPLETELY change the way low sec pvp works from fittings all the way up to tactics. That along with new ships, this and everything

Just hope you aren't doing more than you can handle because these changes really are MASSIVE

You should interpret it as what it says: bounties have no impact on the legality of attacks.

If you engage someone who's not a legal target in the area you're in, you'll get the appropriate criminal or suspect flags for doing so. If he's a legal target for whatever reason, you can attack him at will. At no point does the fact that he has a bounty on his head make any difference.

In what way? Who's going to go after a target when the bounty hardly covers T1 fittings on a n00bship?

For those asking about changing the percentages:

- Public / anonymous bounties on pilots / corps / alliances are all placed into a shared pool. So the percentage has to be fixed in stone (20% is fine) for all payouts from that pool because there can be multiple contributors to that pool.

Private bounty contracts, OTOH, will need the ability to adjust the percentage payout (0% up to 10000% with a minimum / maximum payout per kill).

#GetsIt

So you are saying that the logi's are OK, as long as the victim does not shoot back?
That is flat nuts.

Another scenario:
Griefers place bounties on tons and tons of players associated with Incursions.
Now, the log's have to make a choice: Do I rep the victim, and risk him shooting back and suddenly I am flagged, or do I watch him die?

And the flip side is even if Incursion fleets make it mandatory that victims cannot shoot back, to protect logi's, you KNOW that the griefers will stuff an Awoxer in a fleet. Imagine the griefing capabilities. The Awoxer "victim" is "ganked" by his Bounty Hunter buddies. The logi's start repping him, because it is understood that the victim will not shoot back. But the victim DOES shoot back, and suddenly all those logi's have a suspect flag and are fair game to the gankers.

Just how long will it be before Incursion logi's will not be repping players with bounties, or simply all players with bounties will be banned from Incursion fleets.

One thing that will come out of this for certain is that no person with a bounty on their head will be allowed to fly a logi, as they are crucial to the survival of the fleet in Incursions, and no FC will be risking a fleet where one of his logi's might get popped.

Bounties

Also bounties on corps and alliances will have smaler payout, beacause 20% is to much ?

Yep.

But only if the pod kill was worth something, and you're still getting a small fraction of the value. I don't think FW payout + 20% value bounty will be greater than the market price of the ship lost.

Keep in mind that the Winter expansion will also see a major change to Faction War payouts, so that the market value of an individual militia loyalty point will be reduced greatly.

And this is good for the psychopaths in the game.
Someone who has done nothing in the game to warrant an attack can be griefed right out of the game "legally".
I am not surprised the CSM is onboard with this, given the vast majority are the null sec zealots this was targeted to appease.