EVE New Citizens Q&A

Quick question, i want to create ships and sell them and some times build some for myself, if im going to sell ships which are the ships that are in highest demand in EvE, this would be i think ships that get destroyed the most and that players need to re-substitute the most, in other words ships that sell well and fast!!

Thanks

Really that bad? even if i mine the minerals myself?

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However, the variety of minerals available in high-sec will restrict the classes of ships you can build and since anyone can build these, the margins on them are really thin and only yielding a benefit if you have excellent skills, standing, and produce in large quantities.[/quote]

Well then to counter this i could mine extra Trit for example and with the ISK obtained i would buy the rarest minerals needed this would be even better as i wouldnt have to venture into low sec for rare minerals, right?

This is more complex than i thought, i guess i would always have to check that the sum of the sell prices of all the minerals needed to make the ship dont surpass the sell price of the ship itself once built, right?

thanks a a lot !!!

Ammo's a good place to start. Good margins, which mean you can make a profit with low skills and low ME on the blueprint.

The only downside is the level of investment you can manage is low. While you might make a 100% profit on investment, you can't invest that much.

One of the reasons many people move away from ammo later on (which is a good way to keep it open for beginners)

or a simpler answer could be...sell catalyst's in Uedema. The goons throw them away like used tissue

/me waits for the glut of procurers and retrievers to clear, so he can cash in for 1000% profit.

It doesn't matter where the mins come from, they are never just free. Their value is always the same. Even if i go ahead and just give 150mill in minerals to you as a gift and you build a ship from it that sells for 120mill where you are producing it, you still lost 30mill by producing that thing and you are still stupid and you should still stay away from the manufacturing screen lest you hurt yourself more.

This should be really, really obvious, but don't build things if the cost of production is higher than the cost of the end product. It is simply astonishing how many people don't get that.


Anyways, back to the topic of producing ships. I disagree strongly with one of the previous posts who suggested that Production Efficiency at IV could be servable, especially when we are talking about T1 ships. It isn't. Train up to V as soon as possible. While it's still at IV, you can make some ammo or something to get the mechanics of producing down. But leave ammo to half-time producers after that.


There is money in producing T1 ships, but you will want to be flexible in what you produce. Keep a good spreadsheet handy that tells you what you can expect in terms of
- ISK per produced item
- ISK per hour while producing that item
- ISK per invested ISK while producing that item
Based on that spreadsheet, buy BPOs and produce from them. Don't use BPCs, those only add unnecessary costs especially when we are talking about T1 ships. When your spreadsheets tell you that another ship is more profitable, resell your old BPO, buy a new one and switch to that. Make sure to keep track of how much you paid for each BPO so you don't lose money on reselling. You can actually make a fair amount of money by shopping around.

Next up, don't haul stuff yourself. It's boring as hell and too risky. It's also difficult to haul a worthwhile amount of ships without a freighter. Luckily, there are enough people in Red Frog, PushX or independent freighter pilots who for some reason will haul stuff for ridiculously low wages from one end of the galaxy to the other while takign all the risk. Abuse the hell out of this fact.

Don't sell your stuff in or around Jita, the competition is too fierce when talking about T1 ships. Go to Hek, Oursulaert or a similar mini-hub.

Remember that trade skills are essential for a manufacturer that wants to earn money.

Also, and this one is more controversial: Once you know what you are doing, don't hesitate to buy 2 or 3 PLEX to get enough money to scale up your production. If you use this injection of ISK to get to the point where the manufacturing can pay for your PLEX each month, then it's very much worth the investment. Sometimes it takes ISK to make more ISK.

This way i made 5b in about 7-9 months after starting the game. I payed for my account the first three months. Then i bought 3 PLEX, using one for my account and two for additional cash that scaled my production up to a level where it could sustain my account. When i created my character, i focused almost exclusively on industry and that's how i got started.

If i have to single out one most important thing in T1 manufacturing, it's the need for a decent spreadsheet to keep you updated on how you are doing. T1 production is fairly simple, some basic understanding of Excel goes a long way here.

One final note: There's good money in destroyers.



Good luck.

You do know it's possible to sell minerals using sell orders, rather than to buy orders, don't you?

Just like you'd be doing with the Megathron. After all, the Megathron would only fetch 131 million if you sold it to a buy order.