EVE General Discussion

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Unlike real life, miners in EVE will not slow down mining to raise the prices. For 8 years they mined the stuff at rock bottom prices.

You could literally mine trit back then by buying shuttles from NPC sell orders.

Yep, that was removed becaue, while an ISK sink, it was a resource fountain and created an artificial ceiling for trit prices.

Holy baloney dude, are you really that ignorant?

First of all, producers will never slow down production in this game for two reasons: the first is because most raw resources here are limitless, and the second is that there is no cost, that is, barrier to entry, associated with extraction. This means miners will continue to mine until their eyes bleed, and will in fact try to mine more to compensate for making less per unit. The second reason is the prevalence of the "**** you, got mine" attitude that results in extreme tunnel vision by the producers you think to be so clever, because, after all, they're just children playing a video game..

Second of all, this is not a free market. All steps of production are controlled by our Big Bros in Iceland. If this was a free market, I'd be able to substitute condensates for technetium in order to produce Hulks for you at a quarter of the price, and sell them to you on a blanket spread out on the curb outside of Jita 4-4.

Fact: The majority of US oil today is domestically-produced.

Fact: The prices of gas and other fuels aren't set by rich Saudi princes with their metallic-silver luxury cars, but by board members of the world's most powerful corporations, and to a less minor extent, speculators.

Sure they do. Members of the opposite Faction's FW Corp can shoot them at will.

As for being in a Player Corp, that's what the Wardec Fix is meant for.

Then I don't know where you've been playing.....

Because in the 6 years I've been playing (<- obvious forum alt is obvious)... I've not only seen it... I've logged in my alt fleets and multiboxed those belts myself.

1,5 hours per belt on average before the patch.....

1. My anecdotal evidence of NPC corp chat is that it was incredibly unfriendly as well as unhelpful. Whereas the rookie help chat aided me in completing tutorials as well as gaining some understanding of how the game works. If the NPC corp channel is such a great loss it would be incredibly easy to keep the changes I've stated yet allow players to join any of their factions NPC corp channels. This removes the invulnerability from wardecs yet still allows new players to be guided by veterans if they so choose.

2. You don't see this type of fleet operating because the targets do not exist yet, for those targets to exist my idea would have to be implemented. As I've experienced in nullsec if the targets are there someone is forming a fleet to go blow them up.

3. The reasons for players to want to leave NPC corps do not already exist. Any npc corp member now is allowed to wander over the entirety of highsec without repercussion. They are allowed to be 100% invulnerable to non-suicide gank aggression. The tax is not enough of a burden to prompt them to leave. The only incentive that keeps players in NPC corps right now is safety. Invulnerability to wardecs in highsec space is a huge amount of safety and risk reduction. It is so large that players have highsec PvE alts that remain in these corps while making isk comprable to nullsec isk making activities.

The fact that the safety of NPC corps will be removed for all but new players will be enough incentive to drive people from npc corps and into player corps.

E: I'd like to further state that the only thing NPC corps do now is protect veterans from consequences. That guy freighting 10billion isk yeah he's 3 years old and has only been in an npc corp. That guy running missions in a faction fit macharial yeah he's 5 years old and has only been in an npc corp. That guy messing with markets yeah he's 2 years old and has only been in an npc corp. That mining fleet yeah they're all 2-3 years old and have only been in an npc corp.

All of the above are making nullsec comprable isk while having basically what amounts to no risk and being immune to any consequences other players would like to inflict on them.

Those penalties for "suicidal behavior" have been put in, are being put in, and probably will continue to be put in far into the future.

I have to wonder why players seem to want their risk in the form of canned NPC-generated risk and not player-generated risk, though. Players are more effective at providing legitimate risk than NPCs will ever be.

Answered your own question there.