EVE General Discussion

Can someone clarify one part of OP's logic for me.

"Accounts that are lasting on PLEX bought for ISK will unsub -> EVE is dying"
So, basically "customers" who pay jack to CCP unsubbing will somehow make CCP stop entire EVE endevour?

Okay, I see some merit in this thinking, but only indirectly.
I believe that PLEX price is high because some things in the game bring a lot of ISK into pockets of certain people (not speaking of faucets here, just some people getting filthy rich). They can buy PLEXes for current price. Others try to catch up and so go for FW and whatever else offer good income currently. Some of them could maybe buy some PLEXes from CCP instead, but it's arguable. So those hypotetical people who farm high-income activities instead of PLEXing in (errr... I know how strange this sounds) are only CCP's loss. It's not much.

If anything, it's not CCP's fault that faction goods are still priced high enough to make FW this profitable, same with ore and other things. They may do some work on balancing different ways of aquiring same NPC-seeded stuff (ISK faucets, LPs etc.) to fix effort/income ratios of thereof, but that's about it. Everything else follows player-run economical model, and current state of economics affects PLEX prices.

After all, PLEXes aren't that abundand to have its price stable and so it is easily affected by just a bunch of folks (those who can pay a lot for it in this particular case), which is exactly what we are looking at atm. It's only the fact that they are currently pretty expencive and somewhat hard to come by (IRL writes scenario) that keeps the price from starting to hop like mad.

People like this drive up the prices:
http://www.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14748095
lol

Its called inflation. Every other ship/module/mineral/item in eve has risen in price since years ago. I remember last year when drakes/canes/myrms were only 25-30mil and battleships started at 50mil - 100mil.

People have more isk now than they did back then, and if you cant afford the PLEX then you need to figure out what your doing wrong because most people can afford them, and thats why the prices are the way they are.

LOL @ noobs who can't make PLEX money easy

Oh, the PLEX is too expensive. This is really sad to hear.

We here at the "Headquarter for stupid complaints, whiners and other folks who think EVE is to hard" have a solution for it.

Just play less EVE. It might sound counterproductive as first because you might say "Less EVE, doesn't that mean i have even less ISK to pay for my PLEX?".

But that is the wrong approach. If you only buy a plex every second month, you can cut the ISK you spend on PLEX in half. Also you will reduce your losses due to PVP and stupid behavior by 50%.

Example: If you are currently spending 600 million on PLEX and 600 million on PVP/other activity, you need to make 1,2 BILLION in one month. With our plan, you reduce the cost to 300 million per Month for PLEX and 300 million for PVP/other activity, so you need to make only 600 million.

As you can see, the math checks out and there is no drawback for it. You even will be more excited and less bitter because you can only play one month EVE and then you have one month to get excited for it again.



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Inflation...yup.

2011 Jita prices:

May 1: 492M
June 1: 475M
July 1: 475M
Aug 1: 485M
Sept 1: 499M
Oct 1: 563M
Today: 640M (with a low buy currently of 652M)

So let's see, we have experienced 18% inflation in Eve in the past 9 days, bases on your logic.

How about this: FW and null sec faucets have created a huge amount of trillionaires..that's right, trillionaires.
And now, a certain bunch are using their ISK to manipulate the market.

On Oct 8th, the average plex sold in Jita for 600M.
As I said, today, the lowest BUY is 652M, lowest sell of 666M.

The price of plex yesterday went up more that I made running both sides of WC IV and Gone Berserk, and one more mission.
But hey, there is no problem at all with the prices and the trillionaires that FW and the null sec plexes are creating.

I have been holding off joining the FW LP farmers because I find it so distasteful and ridiculous.
Clearly, I have been a fool, and I have little choice but to begin FW LP farming if I wish to keep playing Eve.
I am sitting on 18 billion in cash.

A month ago I thought that was worth 3 years of plexes. Now, I think it might be worth 18 months.
Given the perfect storm of plexes being used for char faces, for the tourney auctions, and the trillionaires manipulating prices, we are facing 1 billion ISK plexes by Christmas.

I would like to point out that I am very happy about this

But if they are so high in cost, they will not be bought and used, so no money for CCP. CCP would only "be able to pay so much" and will lay off staff and devs.

If that's what you want, continue to be flippant.

That was addressed to most of the first 10 posters in this thread.

2 of my accounts are out of here tomorrow because of this. And the count continues.

Me too. Tthen I'd start to sell PLEX by myself. Probably... If there is not a massive trend towards 1,5 bil...

play one account, pay it with money and get a life


Yours sincerely

Guy Nextdoor