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What are the King frigates now?
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Beat General
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-10-09 21:05:53 UTC
So after the frig rebalance... What are the king frigates?


Before it used to be rifter or merlin, and for the T2s it was probably jaguar.


What about now?
Zarnak Wulf
Task Force 641
Empyrean Edict
#2 - 2012-10-09 21:15:00 UTC
There is no longer a king. Power to the masses!
Belthazor4011
Battle BV Redux
#3 - 2012-10-09 21:15:30 UTC
No King ever lived in EVE if you ask me. All frigs have their ups and down, I fly many different ones and I fear none more than the other. This applies to before the frig rebalance as well as now.
Beat General
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-10-09 21:16:17 UTC
Belthazor4011 wrote:
No King ever lived in EVE if you ask me. All frigs have their ups and down, I fly many different ones and I fear none more than the other. This applies to before the frig rebalance as well as now.


Nah, before the Rifter was the king.

Zarnak Wulf
Task Force 641
Empyrean Edict
#5 - 2012-10-09 21:22:06 UTC
Over half of them aren't out yet so it's hard to see how things will settle. I'm sure you'll have a parade of people give you their opinion though. I'm personally interested in the Tristan and Breacher.
Beat General
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-10-09 21:28:22 UTC
Zarnak Wulf wrote:
Over half of them aren't out yet so it's hard to see how things will settle. I'm sure you'll have a parade of people give you their opinion though. I'm personally interested in the Tristan and Breacher.


Why breacher?

Seems like such a random ship.
Zarnak Wulf
Task Force 641
Empyrean Edict
#7 - 2012-10-09 21:41:40 UTC
Beat General wrote:
Zarnak Wulf wrote:
Over half of them aren't out yet so it's hard to see how things will settle. I'm sure you'll have a parade of people give you their opinion though. I'm personally interested in the Tristan and Breacher.


Why breacher?

Seems like such a random ship.


It will become a 3-4-3 slot frigate with a 7.5% shield boost per level bonus as well as a straight 5% damage per level bonus. It's shields are being increased to a base of 500. (625 with skills). It also gets two light drones. It screams 'asb' to me.
Beat General
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-10-09 23:15:38 UTC
Zarnak Wulf wrote:
Beat General wrote:
Zarnak Wulf wrote:
Over half of them aren't out yet so it's hard to see how things will settle. I'm sure you'll have a parade of people give you their opinion though. I'm personally interested in the Tristan and Breacher.


Why breacher?

Seems like such a random ship.


It will become a 3-4-3 slot frigate with a 7.5% shield boost per level bonus as well as a straight 5% damage per level bonus. It's shields are being increased to a base of 500. (625 with skills). It also gets two light drones. It screams 'asb' to me.


Not bad, pretty cool how useless ships are becoming good now.
Belthazor4011
Battle BV Redux
#9 - 2012-10-09 23:26:51 UTC
Beat General wrote:
Belthazor4011 wrote:
No King ever lived in EVE if you ask me. All frigs have their ups and down, I fly many different ones and I fear none more than the other. This applies to before the frig rebalance as well as now.


Nah, before the Rifter was the king.



I disagree, kicked many Rifter ass in other frigs that were not rifters. They didnt scare me Cool
Beat General
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-10-09 23:30:29 UTC
Belthazor4011 wrote:
Beat General wrote:
Belthazor4011 wrote:
No King ever lived in EVE if you ask me. All frigs have their ups and down, I fly many different ones and I fear none more than the other. This applies to before the frig rebalance as well as now.


Nah, before the Rifter was the king.



I disagree, kicked many Rifter ass in other frigs that were not rifters. They didnt scare me Cool


king != invincible.


I killed a ton of rifters too. But it was still the king.
Chessur
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#11 - 2012-10-10 00:08:13 UTC
Slicer and Arty wolf are the two best frigs hands down.
Beat General
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-10-10 00:10:08 UTC
Chessur wrote:
Slicer and Arty wolf are the two best frigs hands down.


For what exactly?

Frig v Frig ? Or in general?
Dato Koppla
Neuronix
#13 - 2012-10-10 00:30:49 UTC
Previously the Dram was king because ridiculous speed and decent dps means that you either win, or disengage, effectively making it unkillable with proper piloting.

Right now I'd say something like the Raildevil because it gets almost unmatched range control within scram range, and can project its dps pretty far causing problems for no-tank kiters. Slicer/Wolf/Other kiting ships are really good, but it can be difficult to keep at range the entire flght if it goes for long and getting slingshotted often means death for those ships.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#14 - 2012-10-10 00:39:00 UTC
navitas is, and always will be, the king.

~~ Localectomy Blog ~~
Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#15 - 2012-10-10 00:52:45 UTC
I'm having loads of fun in the 'attack' frigs atm.

But i feekl the balance in frig combat is way better now than before and it shows by the number of different frigs that are out in regular play nowadays.

For me the condor and executioner are great for kitey stuff. and the condor does well in a scram kiter/brawler setup as well.

I will always have a place in my heart for the punisher. And i'm finding more love for the merlin now (even though I loved it before and feel the split weapons were fine.)

And the incursus is a great fast 'combat' frig for general buggery.

The rifter still have it's flexibility but now there are others that do specific things better than or the same as it so it's not a clear winner anymore.

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.
Tara Nagos
District 16
#16 - 2012-10-10 01:30:01 UTC
Belthazor4011 wrote:
Beat General wrote:
Belthazor4011 wrote:
No King ever lived in EVE if you ask me. All frigs have their ups and down, I fly many different ones and I fear none more than the other. This applies to before the frig rebalance as well as now.


Nah, before the Rifter was the king.



I disagree, kicked many Rifter ass in other frigs that were not rifters. They didnt scare me Cool


+1

I would say that actually the Merlin was king and no one knew it. You had to train two weapon systems plus supports to really make it shine... No one was willing to put the training time into a Merlin so they just assumed the Ritter was better.

That's not to say the Rifter is bad, it was and still is one of the top frigates in my mind... It's just not easy mode anymore.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2012-10-10 01:37:40 UTC
anathema, 12 dps of death
To mare
Advanced Technology
#18 - 2012-10-10 02:05:35 UTC
Beat General wrote:
Belthazor4011 wrote:
No King ever lived in EVE if you ask me. All frigs have their ups and down, I fly many different ones and I fear none more than the other. This applies to before the frig rebalance as well as now.


Nah, before the Rifter was the king.



Rifter has never been the king since the merlin was very good even before the last boost.
Now for t1 frig combat the merlin is the king, incursus is close in second place and then you have the rifter and the punisher way behind the 2 blaster boat.
Tasage Tivuri
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-10-10 04:53:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Tasage Tivuri
Beat General wrote:
So after the frig rebalance... What are the king frigates?


Before it used to be rifter or merlin, and for the T2s it was probably jaguar.


What about now?

I would say the "king frigate" is the person piloting it; if you have the skills, know how to fit and fly your frigate of choice then the odds are in your favor to winning a space dogfight.
Hakaimono
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-10-10 07:16:46 UTC
It took a gang of two Thrashers and two Incursus' to bring my Jag down. I think they didn't like it when I killed two of their friends a few min prior.
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