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So CCP, any comment on Plex Prices?

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Aareya
Backwater Redux
Tactical Narcotics Team
#141 - 2012-09-29 18:51:14 UTC
Pak Narhoo wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:


Talking about bad correlations... miners individually unlike FWfarmers are NOT MAKING BILLIONS OF ISK PER WEEK


Plex = a monthly cost. I think miners can manage to scrap up enough cash to pay for one and make a little profit. And I am willing to bet there is a hell of a lot more of them.


So you just completely dismiss the LP unbalance that is FW because your focus is solely on high sec miners? Shocked
Kewl.

The FW farming scenario will change with the winter patch (1-2 months from now?). AFK mining will still exist. People concerned with rising PLEX prices will be more concerned over longer term prices changes over short term (1-2 month) changes. This makes the discussion around the FW point relatively moot.

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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#142 - 2012-09-29 18:56:58 UTC
Aareya wrote:
Pak Narhoo wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:


Talking about bad correlations... miners individually unlike FWfarmers are NOT MAKING BILLIONS OF ISK PER WEEK


Plex = a monthly cost. I think miners can manage to scrap up enough cash to pay for one and make a little profit. And I am willing to bet there is a hell of a lot more of them.


So you just completely dismiss the LP unbalance that is FW because your focus is solely on high sec miners? Shocked
Kewl.

The FW farming scenario will change with the winter patch (1-2 months from now?). AFK mining will still exist. People concerned with rising PLEX prices will be more concerned over longer term prices changes over short term (1-2 month) changes. This makes the discussion around the FW point relatively moot.


Show me please that dev blog or a dev quote where CCP acknowledges that their first mayor FW fix in years missed the boat and they are going to fix it again.
Regan Rotineque
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#143 - 2012-09-29 19:01:33 UTC
Only have one thing to say about this

\o/ - let the free market reign !

~R~
Aareya
Backwater Redux
Tactical Narcotics Team
#144 - 2012-09-29 19:27:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Aareya
Pak Narhoo wrote:
Show me please that dev blog or a dev quote where CCP acknowledges that their first mayor FW fix in years missed the boat and they are going to fix it again.


Luckily, a new post has gone up on a certain EVE news site that lists upcoming changes (including the FW "LP whoring" change).

Detailed changes to FW can be found inside the EVE Online forums. Look for the post with the CCP DEV logos next to them.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#145 - 2012-09-29 21:47:51 UTC
Pak Narhoo wrote:


So you just completely dismiss the LP unbalance that is FW because your focus is solely on high sec miners? Shocked
Kewl.


FW has nothing to do with the plex price rising. The cause of plex price rises is the hundreds of new mining bots all using plex to stay subbed. When FW LP farming gets its nerf plex prices will not go down.
Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
#146 - 2012-10-09 20:09:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Sudri Namian
Plex price reached 640 mil prob 700 by tomrrow . CCP needs to step in !
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#147 - 2012-10-09 20:11:55 UTC
Sudri Namian wrote:
Plex price reached 640 mil prob 700 by tommrow . CCP needs to step in !


Yes, they need to get the prices up to 1b so I can make profits while at the same time making back my losses on those stupid Hulks. CCP owes me for that one Evil

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Lord Ryan
True Xero
#148 - 2012-10-09 20:22:06 UTC
Why would CCP care? I'm not a fanboy and I still can't blame CCP. Yes they could be using that scam the one guy tried to tell us about, but I doubt it.

Anyways if plex price bothers you so much, buy a bunch and sell at the rate you think they should go for. They are on sale right now. clicky!

Do not assume anything above this line was typed by me. Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient.
F'elch
Wall Street Trading
#149 - 2012-10-09 20:30:46 UTC
You mean you're not paying with bitcoins?

N00b.
Speaker for TheDead
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#150 - 2012-10-09 20:43:26 UTC
Why is this so hard to understand?
Are people expecting CCP to insert ghost plex into the system to meet demand?
Plex supply is tied to the number of people willing to buy plex for money, or time-codes for money.
Less people willing to waste their hard earned money on plex +
more people wanting to play for free = more demand/less supply = higher prices.

At some point, people will stop subbing alts, demand will go down, and prices will stabilize, I wouldn't ever expect them to drop though.



"Inception date: [u]Expired[/u]."
Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
#151 - 2012-10-09 20:46:58 UTC
http://themittani.com/features/how-dust-514-can-help-eve

Watch this video and you would know why CCP will step in :)
Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
#152 - 2012-10-09 20:47:01 UTC
Feel Plex is too high?......simple... switch to credit card. Let all the suckers pay 700- 1bill for a plex Blink

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Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
#153 - 2012-10-09 20:48:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Sudri Namian
Xpaulusx wrote:
Feel Plex is too high?......simple... switch to credit card. Let all the suckers pay 700- 1bill for a plex Blink


Can't atm IRL cash issue P:
So for me 1 bil a plex = game over :)
Spurty
#154 - 2012-10-09 20:49:22 UTC
pulls out credit card and buys 10 x 28 plex

Keep shooting those rats guys.

170,800,000,000 just landed in my wallet




















not really, whats the point in having all that isk anyways?

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And wood ships,

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Lord Ryan
True Xero
#155 - 2012-10-09 20:52:13 UTC
Spurty wrote:
pulls out credit card and buys 10 x 28 plex

Keep shooting those rats guys.

170,800,000,000 just landed in my wallet



not really, whats the point in having all that isk anyways?



Yeah the game is more fun when you're broke. You just have to pretend you don't have billions in assets.

Do not assume anything above this line was typed by me. Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient.
Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
#156 - 2012-10-09 20:58:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Sudri Namian
ShockedShocked
Spurty wrote:
pulls out credit card and buys 10 x 28 plex

Keep shooting those rats guys.

170,800,000,000 just landed in my wallet






not really, whats the point in having all that isk anyways?



Wish i could do that :)
Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
#157 - 2012-10-09 21:04:01 UTC
Sudri Namian wrote:
Xpaulusx wrote:
Feel Plex is too high?......simple... switch to credit card. Let all the suckers pay 700- 1bill for a plex Blink


Can't atm IRL cash issue P:
So for me 1 bil a plex = game over :)

Well, thats unfortunate and i got a feeling alot will be forced to unsub by default because of RL cash issues. BTW CCP will not step in on this because the market will adjust itself after a plex spike which has happened before and theres not much they can do anyways.

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Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
#158 - 2012-10-09 21:49:18 UTC
Sudri Namian wrote:
http://themittani.com/features/how-dust-514-can-help-eve

Watch this video and you would know why CCP will step in :)


I read it. I don't see anything pertaining to Plex in there. The article right or wrong doesn't talk about ISK distribution or redistribution and that's pretty much all Plex does, redistribute wealth. It's a white paper on Sinks. I'd argue with it on a few points but that's neither here or there. It isn't tied to Plex.

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Aasera Moennan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#159 - 2012-12-30 20:14:50 UTC
I Love Lesbians wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
If I don't have money to pay for my account, as I often do, I find that I'm going to have to unsubscribe.

I simply have no real incentive to keep playing the game if all I'm doing is PVE just to afford to play the game.

PLEX prices need to go down otherwise this is going to become an option that is completely unavailable to me and many other players.


If you dont have money to pay for an account you have other more serious problems than not being able to play a game...



I agree with this. This is not a f2p game. CCP has allowed you to pay for your game with "ingame" monies and now you cry because you cant make enough to play the game for free. Sorry...dude but I happen to like the price of a PLEX at 700 mil or better. I dont want to grind in this game. I prefer to work at my rl job and spend my money for enjoyment in Eve. People whining because they cant play the game for free is like all the goof tards at the grocery store whining because their food stamps don't buy beer. I PAY good hard coin for multiple accounts and buy PLEX from CCP with real money. Do you think they are going to care if they lose your account or mine? Trust me unless they are idiots, they want to keep me coming back...not you. It's the players like me that allows CCP to let players like you continue along in the game for free. Sorry if this is too harsh, but this is what life is about. Making your own way. Peace
Maire Gheren
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#160 - 2012-12-30 20:23:51 UTC
If the DUST players have easy access to buying PLEX to buy gear, but don't need the PLEX themself to play, the prices might tank once they surge in and want to easymode themselves better gear (which they will promptly lose in hilarious ways). This will be a good thing, because it means that CCP is getting more money coming in to create them. CCP can't exactly force people to create PLEX.