Player Features and Ideas Discussion

In order for Insurance to collect more than it pays out, people have to stop losing ships. I've insured a few ships that had the Insurance expire before I lost them. In one case, probably twice.

The only real solution I can see, is to either change the payout to LP for the SCC for anything exceeding 50% of Insurance premium. Another possibility is to change the Insurance premium coverage to a shorter duration, with incremental payments based on that shorter duration and automatic bill payment available for it. That could work well with the first thought there.

Alternative option, (with or without one or both of the above), is to limit coverage to a specified region, and reduce coverage in lower security regions, or even eliminate it entirely.

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Another thing that might be appropriate is to add a minimum insured period before eligibility for payout of ~1 week.

Would it be for high and low only or empire null also?

These could be included on Idea of using Issuance to gain LP to trade on Getting the Hull back, although Faction ships would give more LP and demand also more LP to get restored. These means that the more ships you lose the bigger is the chance of getting some of them back. Also the amount of LP returned by Losing a ship would be proportional to the region you lose it:
100% in hi-sec
80% in low-sec
60% in null-sec
40% in WH.

Whille the full insurance would be something like 10 or 20% of the ship Market value.

In all ways, this will be an awesome isk sink, because it would take ISK from the game like the actual system does but will not insert isk when someone loses a ship, but it would insert a ship back, what would demand that the player get new modules, and would incourage the player to go again into PVP.

Althoug, It would also incourage people to Buy more ships, since they will be more willing to risk them.

To respond to Hellboundman - I don't think adding a tax to a faction for a high/low sec POS is the way to go. You already pay a tax by way of the Starbase charters. While it is not much, it is a sink. Also there is already POS fuels - which for smaller high security space groups, is more than enough of a sink.

To find a good balance for the economy - you need something which consumes ISK directly and provides a clear and tangible benefit. An example of this is datacores. While datacores are WORTH ISK, they do not create a faucet of it. They are simply trades done between players. These datacores themselves are then subsumed into invention. Therefore, not only do you sink ISK into the datacores, you lose the datacores shortly thereafter.

More concepts of this variety should be introduced. Short-time benefits or early time-on-target benefits could be developed.

Take for example - a new booster which improves your probe scanning by 5% for 20 minutes? Can be purchased directly from NPC stations with medical bays, or from NPC stations that are primarily distribution or industry related. The ISK cost? Put it on par with the costs for standard Synth boosters. Now, you have to have a certain standing requirement, then you pay up some ISK, and you can either A) use the booster yourself to go exploring, or B) Sell it on the market to someone else who wants that benefit. This does not bring ISK directly into the game, and it causes a small sink.

Thoughts?

The Idea is not to reduce the income and the ISK/hour made by any activity, the Idea is to change the origin of this ISK from NPC to player, so it doesn't count as a faucet. So if you change the ISK payout to a LP payout (and you have good itemns in the LP store) you would get the same amout of VALUE for your effort.

If they did this they would have to remove the isk requirement attached to lp items. However, that the the removal of an isk dump.
Not to mention, certain lp items require dog tags that are difficult, if not impossible to attain in high sec missions.
So, if you were to do it this way, then you would have to consider factors such as those, which could in turn have the opposite effect.
Basically, there's no logical way to change the way lp is currently without having to reevaluate the missions and items themselves.
Honestly, if you factor the items required, isk required, and determined a value on the time spent attaining lp, then buying and selling lp items as they are now is actually a loss to the player involved.

Hell, just the other day I was looking at lp implants on the market that were selling for less isk than they required on the lp store, let alone factoring the value of the lp for the item.
Buying lp items in high sec through high sec mission is a loss to those players. It's only really profitable to those in low sec running lvl 5 missions. So changing it would be more of a hit to them than high sec mission runners.

They had tossed around the idea of being able to supplement the need for tags by the item costing more isk, which it self would bea good isk sink

You are right. the impact of these changes are huge. Although I think that the Mission reward could be converted to LP, or at last the Time bonus reward, this would have some significance on reducing isk faucet, and would not affect the bounties. The neural remap and these new items you suggest could be really valuable in the LP to make it more popular and if it also have a hibrid (ISK+LP) cost it would be even better!

I propose, a Jump tax for all nulsec and lowsec systems proportional to total mass and security status of the system, Something small like 1000 ISK per battleship jump, allowing the wallet to go into the negative, for all players up to 200K isk.
Dont worry, you wont feel a thing nulsec dwellers.

Manufacture:

adding a cost of 10K isk for frigates, 30K cruisers 100K battleships, and so on and so fourth, as estimated added build cost.
(this would effectively raise ship prices by that amount) Industrialists, it wont hurt I promise.

T1 Module manufacture can also have the same style sink.

The market can be improved, by adding a WELL PLANNED, very tactical tax, in a very specific way, with the aim to IMPROVE actual player experience within the financial realms of EvE, and Unleash another assault on bots created and operating within the realm's of the EvE markets AND Contracts!

For this, I prepose, a FOREX style TAX on the most lucrative aspect of the market, the Penny war style of gameplay, where a player, if he modifies an order for any single item with excessive frequency, he must pay a small surcharge on top of the existing 100isk,
the More frequent a player modifies an order or multiple orders for the same item, the higher the tax, but this tax will have to be proportional to the item value.
This will be an improvement to overall gamplay to every one, as more people will find it, not only a curiosity, but a new reality of their experience within EvE.

The idea is to add a bandwidth tax/Domination tax, for every 1000 ISK a Penny warrior puts away into savings, he/she must pay an extra 175 isk in taxes and fee's in the worst case scenario and THE MAIN GOALthe average ISK warrior who will spend say, 20 hours a week playing the ISK game, 5-10 ISK for every 1000 ISK he puts away into savings each month.

This will not inflict any damage on any current player activities on the market, Controlling a single item will simply mean you have to pay more of a premium, ORhave a 2nd merchant in the same Station!!!

and an off topic suggestion, if I may?

Allow Corpses to be reprocessed! YES, thats right, you heard me!
Each corpse, can be refined for a 5% overall chance of recovering 1 and only ONE random implant, perhaps other matter for later game improvements, which can help us integrate DUST with EvE!, I hope you see exactly where im headed with this!

and last but not least,
Make a widget, that players can modify, resize themselves, that will show their EvE connection status something similar to the crtl shift alt M window.

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One more idea.
Add a new tax system to, Faction and Pirate BPC ship manufacture.

For example, to build a Nightmare, In the caldari capital, it would cost 1B isk in Manufacturing rights, and up to 2B isk in the outer-most outskirts of Caldari space, while building the same ship in Sansha space would cost only 250M isk in taxes and 750M in taxes when manufacturing in somewhat friendlier Amarrian space.

For faction ships, Lets say I want to build a Navy apocalypse in Minmatar space in the Capital city the taxes would be 500M isk while manufacturing the same ship at the Amarr capital, would cost only 50M in fee's (best case scenario)

Faction standing should play an important role, but not big enough to push most industrialists out.

- The further away the ship is made from the Capital of the appropriate faction, the MORE taxes, the higher the standing of the character making the ship the lower the taxes.
-The bigger the Hull the higher the Taxes.

This would create a whole new source of Revenue for Players and take a pretty nice bite at the ISK faucet, all of these changes, combined would definitely make a real difference.
This would make these "Shiny ships" shiny again, Lets face it, the gap between T1 and faction is closing rapidly, pretty soon you will start seeing people ganking other people in Navy ship hulls at this rate, lets Kill many birds with one stone, sorry for the pun.
Pirate ships, should be a rarity, INCURSIONS destroyed that, LETS make these ships special and sought after delicacies again!

Furthermore, I believe my idea's are well thought through with the ability to further work off of the changes in the future, furthermore I am greatly influenced by real life thought process, by minimizing the work on the Dev's and maximizing the results in the form of player experience with increasing player count over time in mind.

P.S.
I love the new artwork with the Vegabond!

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=96911

Massive ISK sink, the advertising idea that everyone loves.