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Bounty Hunting - Becomes Griefing players out of game! WTF!

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HollyShocker 2inthestink
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#121 - 2012-10-08 19:09:30 UTC
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:


Or I could just do as I posted and not have to waste time by training a alt, but use that alt to do or say what I want. Whos to say I am not in Goofwaffle already?? Having the abilty to see things from multiple points of views is a rare gift not bestowed to trolls I guess.


You're not in Goonswarm. Goonswarm is full of loveable badposters. You're just a badposter.



Never said I was.
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#122 - 2012-10-08 19:11:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Pak Narhoo
HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:
OK I didn’t choose any of you basement dwelling trolls to raise, but I will try and help some of you use your limited thought process to maybe comprehend a simple concept. I will try and keep it as simple as possible.

To call someone a coward for alt posting has to be one of the most moronic and juvenile attempt at trolling there ever was or ever will be. My 17 year old son can do better. Hell my 8 year old daughter even.

The internet itself is a curtain we ALL hide behind to say or be who ever or what ever we want. We all hide behind this curtain so we are all cowards using your moronic logic.



Eh, how about, no? Scrap the "all" please. I am nothing like you.

And thank you for trowing everybody else in the same corner.
It would help if you'd recognize not everybody is like you. What?

When it comes to the internets, say a websites that enable me to reply to a "news" story or other people commenting on it, I don't hide. I use my real name with a small twist, which may make people curious about me, google me and may land them on my website where they even may buy some of my products. Advertising without advertising is what I call it.

See, not hiding my real me may result in income for me, besides that my address and stuff can be for more then a decade found on the internet anyway, so why hide? It's not that I like it but not much i can do about.
Of course EULA prevents me from doing that here. Smile

So I use it. Not to be a troll, or say stuff that gets me behind bars. I just try (and fail often) to write what I mean, then take a few steps back (when not too much intoxicated Oops), reread what I wrote and let common sense decide if its actually worth posting, --> can this get me into trouble, one way or the other.

When it comes to EVE (You have no idea how many post I wrote here and cancelled upon second read) you have to realize that this is a game. More real for some then others, yet anything you do here can, or will have consequences on/for you or people close to you, hence some corps have the ludicrous no forum posting requirement.

I don't hide behind an alt because I know it can have direct repercussions on me, my corp or everyone else nearby. Therefor I try, once again I often fail, to be polite and sincere. Desperately trying to use that grey matter in a positive way.

If you cannot stand behind what you wrote as a main, knowing all the trouble it can get you into, so you post it, hiding cowardly behind an alt, you probably shouldn't have posted it here *at all*.

Jump into low sec with your indy, no idea if there's someone on the other end with smarties. Your decision. Live with it or send a scout first.
Travel AFK in your freighter with several bil. in your cargo hold. Don't cry if you login and find yourself without a freighter, clone and several bil you wanted to sell. You made that choice. Deal with it.
Post offencive stuff here and some may take offence of it, ah well, your choice again.

TL:DR;
Post with your main and live with the seeds you tried to sow.
Or even better, think before posting, but I guess thats too much to ask from some.
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#123 - 2012-10-08 19:17:11 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Salpun wrote:
CCP Punkturis wrote:
MinefieldS wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Actually having a bounty would be great for solo PVP. People might actually fight me more often.

Nope, having a skull near your name means half the bears are scared of you and you will get less fights.


I'll give you all a tiny clue

it might be so that the skull icon will work in the local list in just as well as the overview Blink

Is that devblog still coming out today?


I don't think it was ever scheduled for today.. but soon™


Give poor QA and PR some time to deal with text that Punk and the team handed them.

As EvE players we have the privileges of Devs posting their views (including some very odd).

But a real Dev Blog, with actual data in it, has to pass certain checkpoints.

Like accepted by people with Sr in their titles ( and actual 'grammarians').

Not to mention the poor people having to translate what the Dev of the hour try to say to strange idioms like german, russian and japanese.

I can understand that Punk is itching to correct bad guesses, but to the annoyance of the most of us, she can't.

She have to wait for the corporate process do it's work.

Or use her alts ;)

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.

Lord Ryan
True Xero
#124 - 2012-10-08 19:27:58 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
EvEa Deva wrote:
Log in, check bounty, hmmm 100m, log in second account, shoot 1st account, collect money.

Will not work. The payout is a fraction of the hull value you blow up. That 100 million is paid out in pieces as ship after ship is killed until all 100 mil is used up. So if you kill yourself with an alt:

20 million hull lost
7 million gained from insurance
5 million from the bounty
Net loss to you: 8 million

How many reapers is that?

Do not assume anything above this line was typed by me. Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient.

James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#125 - 2012-10-08 19:35:34 UTC
MinefieldS wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Actually having a bounty would be great for solo PVP. People might actually fight me more often.

Nope, having a skull near your name means half the bears are scared of you and you will get less fights.

Who said anything about bears? I like kill or be killed situations where the outcome is uncertain.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Lord Ryan
True Xero
#126 - 2012-10-08 19:36:08 UTC
Large Collidable Object wrote:
Andski wrote:
HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:
People post with alts for many reasons. Some corps have a code of conduct that restricts them from posting on the forums as they represent that corp.


Which ones?




IIrc Ev0ke used to have such a rule...



On a side note: does that mean that bounties will be untied from sec status?

Anyway - I'll just put a bounty on my own head an autopilot through new eden like a large collidable space piñata.

It will be glorious.

I think DARK just had the post on COAD automatic kick from corp rule. I pretty sure one or two of the other corps I was in had forum posting rules or something. I just use one of my 400 alts when I'm in a player corp.

Do not assume anything above this line was typed by me. Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient.

Lord Ryan
True Xero
#127 - 2012-10-08 19:39:12 UTC
Christy D Floyd wrote:
ISD needs to lock this thread please!!!

Nerf U

Do not assume anything above this line was typed by me. Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient.

CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#128 - 2012-10-08 20:18:37 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
I would encourage the devs not to let up on the dev blogs. I know they are a lot of work and time taken away from actual work towards improving the game but those dev blogs are really important to many of us. Often they are the only reason I visit these forums. It's nice to know what is going on.

I read something recently about the devs stating there would be no more blogs until the expansion is done. This scares me.


I don't know where you read that but the person writing that must have been trolling you because there are a bunch of dev blogs lined up

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Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#129 - 2012-10-08 20:23:29 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
I would encourage the devs not to let up on the dev blogs. I know they are a lot of work and time taken away from actual work towards improving the game but those dev blogs are really important to many of us. Often they are the only reason I visit these forums. It's nice to know what is going on.

I read something recently about the devs stating there would be no more blogs until the expansion is done. This scares me.


I don't know where you read that but the person writing that must have been trolling you because there are a bunch of dev blogs lined up

Oh my.

Bounties on CCP Punkturis. =P

I wonder how high that will get. It's kind of like a popularity contest!

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#130 - 2012-10-08 20:29:46 UTC
Lord Ryan wrote:
Vincent Athena wrote:
EvEa Deva wrote:
Log in, check bounty, hmmm 100m, log in second account, shoot 1st account, collect money.
Will not work. The payout is a fraction of the hull value you blow up. That 100 million is paid out in pieces as ship after ship is killed until all 100 mil is used up. So if you kill yourself with an alt:

20 million hull lost
7 million gained from insurance
5 million from the bounty
Net loss to you: 8 million
How many reapers is that?
What is the insurance pay-out on a reaper?
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#131 - 2012-10-08 20:36:13 UTC
Lord Ryan wrote:
Vincent Athena wrote:
EvEa Deva wrote:
Log in, check bounty, hmmm 100m, log in second account, shoot 1st account, collect money.

Will not work. The payout is a fraction of the hull value you blow up. That 100 million is paid out in pieces as ship after ship is killed until all 100 mil is used up. So if you kill yourself with an alt:

20 million hull lost
7 million gained from insurance
5 million from the bounty
Net loss to you: 8 million

How many reapers is that?

Infinity. Blowing up someone in a rookie ship will generate zero bounty payout with the scheme CCP is going to use. (Assuming I understand it properly).

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CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#132 - 2012-10-08 20:43:22 UTC
Darth Gustav wrote:
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
I would encourage the devs not to let up on the dev blogs. I know they are a lot of work and time taken away from actual work towards improving the game but those dev blogs are really important to many of us. Often they are the only reason I visit these forums. It's nice to know what is going on.

I read something recently about the devs stating there would be no more blogs until the expansion is done. This scares me.


I don't know where you read that but the person writing that must have been trolling you because there are a bunch of dev blogs lined up

Oh my.

Bounties on CCP Punkturis. =P

I wonder how high that will get. It's kind of like a popularity contest!


I would be honored to be the most wanted person in EVE but I'm pretty sure your ISK would be better spent on someone who can be blown up Blink

♥ EVE Brogrammer ♥ Team Five 0 ♥ @CCP_Punkturis

CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#133 - 2012-10-08 20:43:59 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Explorer
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
I would encourage the devs not to let up on the dev blogs. I know they are a lot of work and time taken away from actual work towards improving the game but those dev blogs are really important to many of us. Often they are the only reason I visit these forums. It's nice to know what is going on.

I read something recently about the devs stating there would be no more blogs until the expansion is done. This scares me.
I don't know where you read that but the person writing that must have been trolling you because there are a bunch of dev blogs lined up
In fact we have so many devblogs lined up already that we are having problems scheduling them in order to give each blog the spotlight and attention it deserves while at the same time publishing them all in a timely manner. I'm not kidding, how to fit all the upcoming devblogs and how to order them so the message delivery makes most sense was a topic of an internal discussion today.

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer

HollyShocker 2inthestink
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#134 - 2012-10-08 20:44:55 UTC
Pak Narhoo wrote:
HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:
OK I didn’t choose any of you basement dwelling trolls to raise, but I will try and help some of you use your limited thought process to maybe comprehend a simple concept. I will try and keep it as simple as possible.

To call someone a coward for alt posting has to be one of the most moronic and juvenile attempt at trolling there ever was or ever will be. My 17 year old son can do better. Hell my 8 year old daughter even.

The internet itself is a curtain we ALL hide behind to say or be who ever or what ever we want. We all hide behind this curtain so we are all cowards using your moronic logic.



Eh, how about, no? Scrap the "all" please. I am nothing like you.

And thank you for trowing everybody else in the same corner.
It would help if you'd recognize not everybody is like you. What?

When it comes to the internets, say a websites that enable me to reply to a "news" story or other people commenting on it, I don't hide. I use my real name with a small twist, which may make people curious about me, google me and may land them on my website where they even may buy some of my products. Advertising without advertising is what I call it.

See, not hiding my real me may result in income for me, besides that my address and stuff can be for more then a decade found on the internet anyway, so why hide? It's not that I like it but not much i can do about.
Of course EULA prevents me from doing that here. Smile

So I use it. Not to be a troll, or say stuff that gets me behind bars. I just try (and fail often) to write what I mean, then take a few steps back (when not too much intoxicated Oops), reread what I wrote and let common sense decide if its actually worth posting, --> can this get me into trouble, one way or the other.

When it comes to EVE (You have no idea how many post I wrote here and cancelled upon second read) you have to realize that this is a game. More real for some then others, yet anything you do here can, or will have consequences on/for you or people close to you, hence some corps have the ludicrous no forum posting requirement.

I don't hide behind an alt because I know it can have direct repercussions on me, my corp or everyone else nearby. Therefor I try, once again I often fail, to be polite and sincere. Desperately trying to use that grey matter in a positive way.

If you cannot stand behind what you wrote as a main, knowing all the trouble it can get you into, so you post it, hiding cowardly behind an alt, you probably shouldn't have posted it here *at all*.

Jump into low sec with your indy, no idea if there's someone on the other end with smarties. Your decision. Live with it or send a scout first.
Travel AFK in your freighter with several bil. in your cargo hold. Don't cry if you login and find yourself without a freighter, clone and several bil you wanted to sell. You made that choice. Deal with it.
Post offencive stuff here and some may take offence of it, ah well, your choice again.

TL:DR;
Post with your main and live with the seeds you tried to sow.
Or even better, think before posting, but I guess thats too much to ask from some.



I hope you making money isn’t directly tied to your reading comprehension. Perhaps you need to re-read the post. I stated using the same logic would make us all cowards. Because even though you want to believe you have transparency with your real life versus your internet persona the probable truth is you don’t. Most will say and do things over the internet we would not normally do with face to face encounter. Sorry if that disagrees with you but that’s just human nature and the truth.

My original reply was simply just because someone choose to post with an alt doesn’t automatically make them a coward and there are multiple reasons to post with said alt.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#135 - 2012-10-08 20:46:29 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
I would encourage the devs not to let up on the dev blogs. I know they are a lot of work and time taken away from actual work towards improving the game but those dev blogs are really important to many of us. Often they are the only reason I visit these forums. It's nice to know what is going on.

I read something recently about the devs stating there would be no more blogs until the expansion is done. This scares me.
I don't know where you read that but the person writing that must have been trolling you because there are a bunch of dev blogs lined up
In fact we have so many devblogs lined up already that we are having problems scheduling them in order to give each blog the spotlight and attention it deserves while at the same time publishing them all in a timely manner. I'm not kidding, how to fit all the upcoming devblogs and how to order them so the message delivery makes most sense was a topic of an internal discussion today.

Sounds like you have too much time on your hands. Just publish them.

Also... hasn't anyone noticed the OP is in an NPC corp? If you are in an NPC corp and you stay in Empire bounty hunting isn't going to have an effect on you at all. Post w/ your main troll.

Signatures should be used responsibly...

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#136 - 2012-10-08 20:53:27 UTC
…in fact, if anything, I have this warm fuzzy feeling that bounties will usher in a new era of fitting your ships sensibly to ensure that the bounty payout percentage is always lower than the kill cost.
CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#137 - 2012-10-08 20:58:52 UTC
Gogela wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
In fact we have so many devblogs lined up already that we are having problems scheduling them in order to give each blog the spotlight and attention it deserves while at the same time publishing them all in a timely manner. I'm not kidding, how to fit all the upcoming devblogs and how to order them so the message delivery makes most sense was a topic of an internal discussion today.
Sounds like you have too much time on your hands. Just publish them.
No, because we need to "give each blog the spotlight and attention it deserves".

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer

Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#138 - 2012-10-08 21:01:58 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
Gogela wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
In fact we have so many devblogs lined up already that we are having problems scheduling them in order to give each blog the spotlight and attention it deserves while at the same time publishing them all in a timely manner. I'm not kidding, how to fit all the upcoming devblogs and how to order them so the message delivery makes most sense was a topic of an internal discussion today.
Sounds like you have too much time on your hands. Just publish them.
No, because we need to "give each blog the spotlight and attention it deserves".

que sera, sera.

Signatures should be used responsibly...

Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#139 - 2012-10-08 21:02:14 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
Gogela wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
In fact we have so many devblogs lined up already that we are having problems scheduling them in order to give each blog the spotlight and attention it deserves while at the same time publishing them all in a timely manner. I'm not kidding, how to fit all the upcoming devblogs and how to order them so the message delivery makes most sense was a topic of an internal discussion today.
Sounds like you have too much time on your hands. Just publish them.
No, because we need to "give each blog the spotlight and attention it deserves".

So we will see one tomorrowTwisted

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See you around the universe.

Ifly Uwalk
Perkone
Caldari State
#140 - 2012-10-08 21:16:58 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
In fact we have so many devblogs lined up...

Can't wait.

And I don't even mean that in any sarcastic, shiptoasting, trollin' kind of way.