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Amount of subscibers, EvE vs other mmo

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The VC's
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#61 - 2012-10-08 16:02:18 UTC  |  Edited by: The VC's
The Avatar.

For some people, when they play games they like to pretend they're someone else. Basic, common narcisism. It's a potent hook to get subscribers.

I would posit that most eve players don't really care about avatar based play, and prefer to be themselves in control of equipment and complex systems.

We may still be narcisists anyway, but that's not what drives us to play the game. If anything, I am the systems I control.
I'm certainly not the face that you see to the left of my post. It's not important. Most MMO types have trouble grasping that concept.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#62 - 2012-10-08 16:52:55 UTC
The Antiquarian wrote:
Only one simple solution to this problem.

Make the tournament prize more competitive. More $$$ and new professional gamers will start flocking in.

There is a reason why some of the Korean folks drop out of college to compete in Starcraft tournaments. These tournaments provide enough cash inflows and incentives to sustain their lifestyle.

CCP just needs to host more tournaments with bigger cash prizes using third-party services (MLG and etc).


I believe that is the plan, the upcoming cash prize tournament is testing the waters and mechanics to do just that (or something very, very similar).

Streamed matches work best when they are covering non-stop action in a relatively short time frame. In EVE the closest approximation we have to that are hosted tournaments. With that in mind, if things go well and these streamed cash tournaments start drawing a following this could actually be the best advertising avenue for CCP yet... and the cherry on top is that they will be highly entertaining for the current player base as well.

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Jason Richter
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#63 - 2012-10-08 17:32:47 UTC
Tarvos Telesto wrote:
Hi all

While ago i wach some world championsship turnament in online game caled leauage of legends, and here was more than 80.000 views live that is more than average amount of people loged in eve, just a single room strem tv chanel with 80.000 people waching... but in total here is milions of views while turnament, because people can select own chanel with specific language depend country where they living.

The best part, this game is not even a mmo is just game where people fight 5vs5 in old boring map, using champions like pokemons or somthing like this.

Why others online games are so popular and EvE not What?Sad

So bigger is better ? maybe EvE offer to much large scale pvp ? maybe is to hardcore for mass ? maybe here solo and small pvp is dead ? maybe people love game with small amount of people involed to pvp than like 500vs500 with lag fest and zero fun, maybe is time to change this.

Sorry for my horrible grammar.

o7


The reason is actually quite simple. Most people would rather play a game where content is regulated for them. It takes a special kind of person to stick with a hardcore sandbox like this one where dying has consequences and where your fun is based on what you look for not what is handed to you.
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#64 - 2012-10-08 17:43:13 UTC
It's mostly because EVE is too difficult for the average person to play. Most people don't want to spend the kind of time and effort it takes to play EVE.

Frankly I firmly believe that if CCP changed the control scheme from this point and click crap to an actual WASD or Joystick control scheme it would probably draw in more players.

I keep hearing people say that using anything but point and click causes too many commands being given which lags up the system. To that I say...if other games can do it...so can EVE. Then again it was always said to be impossible to make missile launchers visible and have missiles come from the launchers instead of the center of the ship. I guess we will never see that happe...oh wait...

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Holy One
Privat Party
#65 - 2012-10-08 17:52:43 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
It's mostly because EVE is too difficult for the average person to play. Most people don't want to spend the kind of time and effort it takes to play EVE.


You can keep telling yourself that .. but in my opinion its because the game is not actually much fun. It takes too long to 'buy in', its too tedious day-to-day, it has little reward and a lot of risk and it has been creatively and politically stagnant for 2+ years. Many good reasons why people prefer to play lolbunnies with their 'friends' instead.

:)
T'Laar Bok
#66 - 2012-10-08 18:37:32 UTC
A theme park sounds great!

As long as its got an octopus at least half an AU in diameter.

To keep the PVPs happy they can try to shoot the people out of their seats as they go whizzing past.

It'll be great fun!

.

Amphetimines are your friend.

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Incindir Mauser
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#67 - 2012-10-08 19:40:39 UTC
Because EvE has a unique population.

Those that compose forum posts in purple crayons. And those that know what those funny little bumps are for on the keyboard.
Lord Ryan
True Xero
#68 - 2012-10-08 19:41:55 UTC
I can see 3 reason on the front page and growing.

Do not assume anything above this line was typed by me. Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient.
Josef Djugashvilis
#69 - 2012-10-08 19:47:20 UTC
Monstress wrote:
I would say it's because of EVE's darwinistic nature that drives away most people (and also the main reason I love it so much). Stupid people tend to find their way out quick.


I am too stoopid to even find my way out!

This is not a signature.
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#70 - 2012-10-08 19:48:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyrrashae
EVE =/= other MMOs, and Gods be thanked for this, despite its flaws, and CCP's recent stupidity in listening to the carebears fixes.

If it ever becomes such, then that's the day it will, indeed, die.

1/10.

Next!

E:

So what'd you lose, OP, and the rest of ur stuffs, I can has, pleez?

Ni.
CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#71 - 2012-10-08 20:04:56 UTC
Off topic posts removed. Please stay on topic and polite, thank you.

CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
#72 - 2012-10-10 01:48:16 UTC
Thank you all for extended and short constructive answers, well, looks like here meny factors... I hope we got more people in future.

Cheers.

EvE isn't game, its style of living.