EVE General Discussion

Say bye bye to nerf burger's posts, I guess. Again. vOv

Why do I get the feeling there is a mod deleting posts.

Show yourself!

They did.


Get good at it.

thats what I said. You have to wonder about the intelligence and "skill" of people who prefer their "pvp" to consist of gangbanging helpless targets that don't stand a chance. Hilarious how they like to claim their victims are the stupid ones. EVE to me seems like the last bastion of the stupid "pvper". Now they are flooding the forums with a river of tears that their riskless, brainless "pvp" is being taken away.

Ganker and canflipper tears so delicious.

This from someone whos only contribution to this thread is nothing but insults hurled at players who do things you don't like.

I don't think you can use such a narrow definition for ganking. Like most words, people use it to mean different things, which is in part why discussions must happen. Ganking traditionally means non-consensual pvp. You can debate whether non-consensual pvp happens in eve, since the whole game is pvp, but to use it only to mean destroying both the aggressor's and defender's ships to score a kill is overly narrow. Which is why we delineate the term suicide ganking. You can you ganking as shorthand for suicide ganking, but you can't get upset if someone misinterprets your statements without context to back it up.

There's nothing wrong with ganking in EvE is a time honored pvp tradition. Scale and frequency can determine if it moves over into griefing, which is another topic. And may explain why miners were buffed. Ganking is condoned in the game, griefing is not. The debate can and should include a discussion of where that line lay if relevant, but not if it exists.

I'm looking forward to crimewatch. I know that it is easy to point to how things works for years and cite that that is how it should be, but the current system is needlessly complicated and players have been gaming it for years. I could care less if gankers actually have to deal with global flags which subject them to the same surprises that they have been utilizing for years. The change better allows players to police themselves, even in high security, which is great addition to gameplay. Depending on how effective this policing is practice, maybe concord can be nerfed from the deity status that it now holds. And instead become a minimum therehold of policing. Its a pipe dream, but the possibility doesn't even exist today whereas it is certainly a possibility in the future.

If The Law won, Successful miners lost out in the long-run.

Material prices which were climbing pre-buff stalled.

Material prices which had stalled pre-buff are plummeting.

Yay, Law!

lol, yes. Thx.