EVE General Discussion

What would you say?

Couple of my real life friends we're talking about starting in Eve and asked if I'd recommend it. Honestly, I didn't know what to say.

All I could think of was the divide that comes with starting such an old game. Now I realize I'm probably wrong but the divide does seem huge. A few people control alliances that in turn control mass amounts of wealth and chances. Sure some of them fall but mostly they just seem to rename themselves and start over.

Obviously, like with any game. You take the forums with a pinch of salt. Especially when so many people create alts to back up an opinion. Still, a lot of what you read on the Eve forums is pretty negative. Things taking years to fix, being rushed out and so forth. The bitching about bots, Super's nerf. etc.

So what is it actually like starting from scratch now?

Would you recommend it?

All I could really say was "What not play the trial and see what you think?". Bit of a weak answer, but the best I could come up with.

Schadenfreude.

I really dont know cause it took me the better part of a year to really get to where I enjoy the game, then four more to get into a position to do what I want to lol (there were many vacations in there by the way - except the first year part)



lol its a lot better than it used to be: heres your noobship, *points to undock button* have fun"

Its hard to start the game and go an do anything at all really. "EVE takes time but its damn fun afterward"

“It's great if you can keep yourself entertained and figure out where you want to and what you want to do — the game sure won't tell or help you.”

"Dont read the forums"

I have tried to get 3 to get of my friends to play and have failed. They said the UI is too hard to control. There is nothing to do and have heard too many bad things about the game so they refuse to play. (forever alone)

Honest answer:
I would not recommend EvE to most people before corporation tools and features have been revamped.

Dishonest answer:
I could recommend EvE to someone after spending hour explaining the potential it has.

Lacks a lot of Casual Fun, Sometimes it is boring, Takes a Long Time to reach the Middle of the Pack even with a Plan and Very Complicated to Learn.

That said, Find your Niche and it is great fun. The Community is excellent, the Game is very Deep and there is a lot to do. The Game has a ton of Unique Content you will not find in other MMO's and Career Paths are intricate and involved. One Server where you can make your mark as anything from a leader of your own Empire, Mercenary, Notorious Con Man or Industrial Mogul. These are not Character classes, you can be them just by Deciding to do it and putting in the grunt work. Reputation and Action Matter more then anything else here.

Just some of the stuff involved.

Hundreds of Missions in 5 different Lvls
Wormhole Raids
Incursion Raids
Galaxy Wide Market Trading Moving Hundreds of Billions an Hour.
Wars, Piracy and Conquest in a free and open World.
Mining and Construction.
Exploration and Complexes.
Thousands of Star Systems Millions of Km Across open to you.
Everything you and everyone else owns can be lost.
Factions are meaningless, you must make relationships with people to have allies.

The Game is Difficult but Amazing.

Just two things to keep in mind. If a Someone you do not know can kill you they will. Never trust anyone with your money and read everything carefully, Cons and Scams are Legal and Common. No matter how nice and reassuring they are do not trust them with anything you aren't willing to loose.

A good Mantra before you do anything at all is to look at your assets involved in anything you are about to do and say "They are already gone". If you can accept the loss and think the potential for reward is good enough then go for it.

So wanna give it a go?

Hardcore spaceships is alot better than hardcore pron.

I'd recommend the game in general but would emphasize that starting to play now is risky.

If he is fine with playing with a time horizon of a few months I'd say go ahead but if he thinks long-term and doesn't like to take risks i'd recommend to wait until the DUST settles (i.e. until it becomes clear how CCP will react to the first 2-3 months of DUST sales).

I would not advertise EVE to friends that don't ask me about the game on their own (almost all of them don't know that I play EVE), would feel too much like selling them and the game is not that good.
(If they find out about EVE on their own and are curious enough to ask around if anyone has first-hands experience with it that's already a pretty strong sign that they might enjoy EVE - but forcing EVE on unsuspecting people would probably backfire horribly in most cases)