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EVE: Retribution - smallest expansion yet?

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Alexa Coates
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#61 - 2012-10-07 19:57:15 UTC
4 new ships, new aggression system, and new bounty system not enough for ya, you greedy little ****?

That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.
Ryhss
#62 - 2012-10-07 20:01:52 UTC
ACE McFACE wrote:
Still, its content is pretty good/needed

Why don't they fix all the broken content first?

I just turned into an egg, did I level up? I spent an hour trying to salvage a wreck, when in local a guy said "Stop it, this is my Tempest, I was AFK"
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#63 - 2012-10-07 20:08:01 UTC
Ryhss wrote:
ACE McFACE wrote:
Still, its content is pretty good/needed

Why don't they fix all the broken content first?

Like POS's? I'm looking forward to the devblog on that...

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SegaPhoenix
Chicks on Speed
Weapons Of Mass Production.
#64 - 2012-10-07 20:26:37 UTC


ITS NOT EVEN OUT YET
Suitonia
Order of the Red Kestrel
#65 - 2012-10-07 20:49:32 UTC
Cat Troll wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
are you kidding?

they're releasing dozens of new ships with this expansion

i've heard one called the 'oggeror' which I can't wait to fly for the first time

4 destroyers and a single mining ship.
I think dozens is an exaggeration.


Actually, 3 Frigates from each race, Existing destroyer rebalanced and new destroyer. All 4 Cruisers rebalanced. And new ore mining frigate. In total there is 5 new ships, and 32 ships rebalanced. in Total 37 ships. So "Dozens" would be accurate.

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#66 - 2012-10-07 21:22:12 UTC
SegaPhoenix wrote:


ITS NOT EVEN OUT YET



But it will be pretty soon and we need to hurry if we're going to get all the complaining done that we need to before the summer '13 expansion is due!

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Jacabon Mere
Capital Storm.
#67 - 2012-10-07 21:55:49 UTC
I like these lists where half the content is done by ccp fozzie. Honestly, eve is playing second fiddle to dust, and as long as we have about 10 devs working on eve content, we are going to have half baked "expansions".

The amount of logged in players is telling everyone rather well how we are liking ccp's current direction.

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Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#68 - 2012-10-07 22:16:22 UTC
It's a Free expansion ...
When you pay £27.99 for an expansion, you have an entitlement to voice concern.
But your NOT paying £27.99 for this expansion, so you have no entiltement for complaint.


ps
£27.99 figure used based on this.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#69 - 2012-10-07 22:27:05 UTC
*cough*Quantum Rise*cough*
Olleybear
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#70 - 2012-10-07 22:40:32 UTC
For everyone complaining about there being hardly anything in this expansion:

The reworking that is going on, ship balancing / crimewatch / bountyhunting, is all stuff that CCP had to make when they were first programming Eve. These are changes to the very environment in which we play. The content people are wanting is "stuff" within that basic environment.

Change the graphics, ships names, slap a different name on Eve, like Starburst Wars or something, and we have a different game because of all the changes to the basic environment CCP is working on.

Its not really that hard to see the work they are doing if you just open your eyes a bit. Cheers.

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Flamespar
State War Academy
Caldari State
#71 - 2012-10-07 23:06:22 UTC
Jacabon Mere wrote:
I like these lists where half the content is done by ccp fozzie. Honestly, eve is playing second fiddle to dust, and as long as we have about 10 devs working on eve content, we are going to have half baked "expansions".

The amount of logged in players is telling everyone rather well how we are liking ccp's current direction.


I noticed that there seems to be a decrease in the number of logged in players. Personally I think it's because CCP still has work to do in regaining customer confidence. What do you think?
ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#72 - 2012-10-07 23:07:21 UTC
*Cough*

Size doesn't matter, it's what you do with it, that counts!

Shocked

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D-Mob
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#73 - 2012-10-07 23:08:44 UTC  |  Edited by: D-Mob
Kitty Bear wrote:
It's a Free expansion ...
When you pay £27.99 for an expansion, you have an entitlement to voice concern.
But your NOT paying £27.99 for this expansion, so you have no entiltement for complaint.


ps
£27.99 figure used based on this.



Man, I'm sure glad you "the EXP is free, so shut up and be happy with it" folks don't actually work for CCP....because if you did, this game wouldn't last another year. No company in their right mind would take your approach to customer service....ever.

Bottom line is we are paying customers.CCP didn't make EXP free to do us a favor. They figured it would be their most profitable option,so no,I don't owe them anything for that. If they start charging for EXP, I'll just find another game if I don't want to pay.
Flamespar
State War Academy
Caldari State
#74 - 2012-10-07 23:14:10 UTC
D-Mob wrote:
Kitty Bear wrote:
It's a Free expansion ...
When you pay £27.99 for an expansion, you have an entitlement to voice concern.
But your NOT paying £27.99 for this expansion, so you have no entiltement for complaint.


ps
£27.99 figure used based on this.



Man, I'm sure glad you "the EXP is free, so shut up and be happy with it" folks don't actually work for CCP....because if you did, this game wouldn't last another year. No company in their right mind would take your approach to customer service....ever.

Bottom line is we are paying customers.CCP didn't make EXP free to do us a favor. They figured it would be their most profitable option,so no,I don't owe them anything for that. If they start charging for EXP, I'll just find another game if I don't want to pay.


I agree. And we have every right to discuss the value for money of each expansion.

I think it's hilarious that people come and say 'but they are doing so much work behind the scenes to make this happen", which is the same argument people pulled out in defense of expansions like Incarna.

Players don't care how clever the coding is, or how much refactoring they have to do. They care about whether or not an expansion is fun to play and adds to their gaming experience.
celebro
Ember Inc.
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#75 - 2012-10-07 23:43:07 UTC
+1 to OP, I wouldn't call this an expansion either. The new features are nice and probably needed, but Retribution is what we would call patches back in apocrypha days.
Selinate
#76 - 2012-10-08 00:02:16 UTC
ISD Suvetar wrote:
*Cough*

Size doesn't matter, it's what you do with it, that counts!

Shocked


Ok, now you've had your fun. Go on and moderate your own post so ISD can at least seem fair...
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#77 - 2012-10-08 00:07:50 UTC
Tippia wrote:
*cough*Quantum Rise*cough*


Was gonna mention Quantum Rise as smallest post Trinity as well. It was mostly backend, UI, and fluff.

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden
Alexila Quant
Versatility Production Corporation' LLC
#78 - 2012-10-08 01:19:44 UTC
Gotta find something to ***** about I suppose.
Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#79 - 2012-10-08 01:40:12 UTC
This will be the first expansion in EVE that I will play through (joined after Inferno release) but it really doesn't look like much.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#80 - 2012-10-08 01:45:05 UTC
celebro wrote:
+1 to OP, I wouldn't call this an expansion either. The new features are nice and probably needed, but Retribution is what we would call patches back in apocrypha days.
Unfortunately, there were no “apocrypha days”.

Retribution is a solid expansion in EVE terms, and Apocrypha was a huge anomaly (and a mess, but that is often overlooked because people got so blinded by the size).

D-Mob wrote:
Man, I'm sure glad you "the EXP is free, so shut up and be happy with it" folks don't actually work for CCP.
The EXP would be free if EVE used it. Instead, it uses SP, which is quite different.