EVE General Discussion

*pokes thread back on topic*

Gates are already the graveyard camping of so many other games it's just different.
And agree ganking doesn't need any sort of buff but the opposite, needs to make it enough discouraging so subbing the 20st alt with plex for a month to keep doing it it's something you don't want to do unless specific ganking like assets denial without letting know who your main character is.

ihcn wrote;

"Its not carebears themselves per se', its the nerfing of the sandbox that makes EVE great they continually call for that we hate.

So you have it backwards, PVP players don't have issues with passive carebears doing their thing and dealing with EVE life as it comes (although I agree life in hisec shouldn't be as profitable as it is today as more incentive to move to lo and null....but I digress...)

Its actually the activist carebears who's lobbying for nerfdom is futzing with enforcing THEIR vision on PVP players that is fail...

As I look at crimewatch changes that protect carebears from can/mission flippers now with global 'suspect' flagging and blob pwnage of flippers...it becomes more clear the road to nerfdom is being pursued by CCP, while pretending its still a 'sandbox'. i.e. They let you steal, but make it a non viable activity in practice by the pwnage that will come your way if you do it; illusion, form over function....we are a sandbox, but not REALLY...welcome to WoW behind the looking glass..."

Yes lets make the game super safe for all you cute and cuddley little care bears so no bad people can bother you and steal your loot. These rules will simply kill this game as there will no more pvp in high sec. Low sec pvp will suck even worse then it does now. All that will be left is to join the "Borg like" environment in null where it take 0 skill to follow around a blob and press the button when told. 3 yrs invested in this game and now the care bears will finally completely ruin it. Game over...

[ihcn wrote]"Might as well make theft impossible and be done with it, don't tease me with an illusion of freedom and give me piracy blue balls never to be fulfilled. Seems more and more like Hisec is becoming the 'non pvp/safe' shard, and losec/null the 'pvp' shard; two sandboxes, not one..."

This, pretty much. The sandbox has been an illusion for years, only recently has it become obvious to the majority though.

How about just undoing some of the score of nerfs suicide ganking has taken over the years?

Remember, when EVE was released, there was no effective CONCORD. How is that not promoting ganking in HS?

Go park an unfitted badger on any gate in jita and see how long it takes for someone to gank you. Then do the same in lowsec and 0.0, this will show you that the current penalties are more than enough to discorage rampant ganking.

In which universe?

That's from over 4 years ago. You said still tankable.

What engaging gameplay does ganking add to the game? Is it a behavior that needs to be explicitly supported, or was it always just an emergent phenomenon born out of loopholes in the systems? Should players be rewarded greatly for commonly little risk? How many players would find the game less fun with out the loopholes that make it possible? Wouldn't increased risk by gankers encourage more discriminate risk assessment?