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EVE player feelings on Dust 514.

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Flamespar
WarRavens
#141 - 2012-10-06 21:54:35 UTC
Hopefully when we are finally able to explore derelict stations with our Avatars we will also be able to use guns. So we won't even need dust514 to get our shooting in face fix.
Selinate
#142 - 2012-10-06 22:24:02 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
Hopefully when we are finally able to explore derelict stations with our Avatars we will also be able to use guns. So we won't even need dust514 to get our shooting in face fix.


I hate to be a nerd in this situation, but...

According to the lore, without the special protective equipment, not even mercenaries in Dust could use the guns that they use because it would harm them also. Not to mention that they're genetically engineered to be tougher than us.

Hence, if we tried to use the guns they used, we'd be killed. Not only that, but if we tried to go up against dust players on the ground, they'd wipe the floor with us.

Rum...
Hiyora Akachi
Blood Alcohol Content
T O P S H E L F
#143 - 2012-10-07 01:19:38 UTC
The only feeling I have is an intense desire to nuke them from orbit......

Planetside 2 and ARMA will continue to fulfull my "shoot in face repeatedly" needs.
Soon Shin
Scarlet Weather Rhapsody
#144 - 2012-10-07 01:56:08 UTC
I won't play a shooter if its a console shooter. I don't have a PS3 and DUST is not worth getting a PS3 for.
Flamespar
WarRavens
#145 - 2012-10-07 02:21:48 UTC
Selinate wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
Hopefully when we are finally able to explore derelict stations with our Avatars we will also be able to use guns. So we won't even need dust514 to get our shooting in face fix.


I hate to be a nerd in this situation, but...

According to the lore, without the special protective equipment, not even mercenaries in Dust could use the guns that they use because it would harm them also. Not to mention that they're genetically engineered to be tougher than us.

Hence, if we tried to use the guns they used, we'd be killed. Not only that, but if we tried to go up against dust players on the ground, they'd wipe the floor with us.

Rum...


Easy fix. We can have our own weapons. Or our own protective suits. Or whatever.
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#146 - 2012-10-07 02:29:09 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
Little to zero connection with each other.

Only if we're lucky.
Marlona Sky wrote:
It is time for you to welcome DUST with open arms and provide real solid and meaningful feedback so both games can survive and thrive. Big smile

So only feed back that agrees with you, or supports dust is real, solid or meaningful? Pretentious as hell, aren't you?
Gillia Winddancer wrote:
The Dust project have really brought them out from the woodwork.

"18 Months" brought them out of the woodwork. Look it up. When CCP went full pants-on-head for everything other than the game we're paying for, people went ape-ship....

Dust was collateral damage.


I (personally) don't give a flying fig about Dust.


I don't have a PS 3, and don't want one. My kids have them, but even they have outgrown them. So long as Dust doesn't detract from Eve (PC) experience, I really do not care what they do with it. The second I *have* to care about Dust (just like I *had* to use the frikken ensigns lockers, I mean "capt's quarters") I'm out of here.


Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.

Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#147 - 2012-10-07 02:47:09 UTC
Cerebral Wolf wrote:

Expect it to be released this year, i do.


So the general feeling is that you're not console or FPS players and thus have no interest in Dust. Does the possibility of what this could bring with it not interest that many people?...

no

Cerebral Wolf wrote:
Even as an EVE player and does not like console FPS games the thought of trolling all those consoles kiddies should be exciting shouldn't it?.. Or even the point that CCP is treading new, unexplored ground? Something like this has never been attempted before and that does not interest you?

no, no and no.

Cerebral Wolf wrote:
The community around Dust is actually pretty good so far and even the console kiddies are very interested in it, it's got a large portion of the M.A.G community involved already and that was quite the niche little FPS on the PS3 too. There's certainly going to be a good number of non EVE playing loyal customers and that's shown through already.

I personally feel CCP's business model with it will be the same as EVE's, a small userbase to start with and add subscriptions or whatever to it over time as the meta game gets more complex, people hear about it more and most importantly, as new features are added to the game like what's happened with EVE.

Lets see, with CCP's track record, that would be jesus features, 1/2 done addons and incomplete additions that will be "iterated" later...

nope, don't see the attraction.....

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.

Souisa
Subhypersonics
#148 - 2012-10-07 05:20:11 UTC
How can you give a reason about why you dont care about something? You just dont care, its not interesting

o/

Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#149 - 2012-10-07 06:30:13 UTC
Skurja Volpar wrote:
Selinate wrote:

SOE completely screwed Planetside back in the day


Soe can't screw up EVERY game they run surely!? Surely not every time?!

With regards to dust, I just don't think PI is the most interesting thing they can tie it too. No one really cares enough. Maybe if dust players could be hired to disrupt null moon mining operations, then it would really shake up the game in an interesting way. But PI has never really even crossed my radar since it was introduced.

But I hope it's good, and we're not just going to be swimming in obsolete junk ships and mods in eve for the sake of some failed console game. I hope.


The problem I've found with Sony personally, albeit with limited experience as they made me mad the first time, is that they bully their customers, offer no compromise, and refuse to offer decent customer support, or even answers to reasonable questions for that matter. The other thing I've found, is they tend to be money-grubbing, cash hogs trying to maximize profits without offering a reasonable level of service.

Between the two, it's a good thing Playstation games don't often require you to deal with them. If I had to have one more attempt at conversation or eliciting customer support from SOE or Station.com, I think I'd probably shove a bomb up their collective wazoo. Kidding of course, but it took me 5-6 years to lose the anger I had over the first round of bs.

That being said, despite very rare hiccups, too often updates, perpetual beta Home, blinky, marginally functional service connections and often offline servers, the PS3 actually works pretty well for something that cost ~$300.

It doesn't have a lot of interesting games, it actually did cost too much, and the whole community thing is kind of corny, but I don't need any of that to play Dust aside from being signed in and having that connection stable. Also I suppose, the ability to access the store to download Dust on release if needed. That's fine, and it works so far.

Also, Playstation Network beats SOE, and floors Station.com
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Chokichi Ozuwara
Perkone
Caldari State
#150 - 2012-10-07 07:22:53 UTC
Been playing Planetside2 daily for the last 3 weeks, and I am really into it. I don't own a console, so can't comment on Dust, but PS2 is off the hook.

Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round.

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#151 - 2012-10-07 07:28:59 UTC
Selinate wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
Hopefully when we are finally able to explore derelict stations with our Avatars we will also be able to use guns. So we won't even need dust514 to get our shooting in face fix.


I hate to be a nerd in this situation, but...

According to the lore, without the special protective equipment, not even mercenaries in Dust could use the guns that they use because it would harm them also. Not to mention that they're genetically engineered to be tougher than us.

Hence, if we tried to use the guns they used, we'd be killed. Not only that, but if we tried to go up against dust players on the ground, they'd wipe the floor with us.

Rum...



Hypothetically, our avatars might be using ordinary, non-Dustbunny guns?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#152 - 2012-10-07 07:32:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Roime
I hope CCP lives through the realisation that giving something out for free doesn't mean you get lots of money.

PS3 would be cool and nice, there are other games I'd like to play on it, but it's another short-lived gadget and I can't really justify that kind of consumption in the current state of the world.

EDIT: I'm referring to ecology, not economy.

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Super Stallion
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#153 - 2012-10-07 07:32:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Super Stallion
from people who have played in the beta, i hear its going to be awesome. from people who didnt play in the beta, i hear a lot of... meh.

So, take it as you will. The leaks that I have seen seemed a bit choppy, and the graphics seemed so slightly miss the mark. But, the info I am working off of is a bit out of date. I hear that they worked on those facets during the course of the beta. So, I am reserving judgement. My brother and I will be checking this out when it is released. He is more into FPS's. Ill be looking forward to what he says.

After he looked it up online, he was extremely interested and thought the interplay between eve and an FPS was brilliant. But, one immediate concern he had was with the servers. Are they reliable, and responsive? His second concern was the system choice. He was very reluctant to buy a PS3 for one game. Despite how much he was looking forward to it.

I would actually encourage you to ask some people who live and breath FPS's. Do not to place too much emphasis on Eve Players point of view. After all, if Dust is to succeed, it will be due to the FPS community embrasing it, not the Eve Community.
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#154 - 2012-10-07 10:55:21 UTC
Super Stallion wrote:
if Dust is to succeed, it will be due to the FPS community embrasing it, not the Eve Community.

Embracing.

If Dust is to do what it says it's going to do, it needs to not be ignored by the Eve Community... And it needs to give the Eve community a reason to care.

Right now, it doesn't.

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.

Selinate
#155 - 2012-10-07 11:15:05 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Selinate wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
Hopefully when we are finally able to explore derelict stations with our Avatars we will also be able to use guns. So we won't even need dust514 to get our shooting in face fix.


I hate to be a nerd in this situation, but...

According to the lore, without the special protective equipment, not even mercenaries in Dust could use the guns that they use because it would harm them also. Not to mention that they're genetically engineered to be tougher than us.

Hence, if we tried to use the guns they used, we'd be killed. Not only that, but if we tried to go up against dust players on the ground, they'd wipe the floor with us.

Rum...



Hypothetically, our avatars might be using ordinary, non-Dustbunny guns?


And the dust bunnies must still be around to fight other dust bunnies since our non-dust bunny guns aren't strong enough to defeat the other dust bunnies.
Selinate
#156 - 2012-10-07 11:15:51 UTC
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
Super Stallion wrote:
if Dust is to succeed, it will be due to the FPS community embrasing it, not the Eve Community.

Embracing.

If Dust is to do what it says it's going to do, it needs to not be ignored by the Eve Community... And it needs to give the Eve community a reason to care.

Right now, it doesn't.


The eve community does not equal the eve forum community.
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#157 - 2012-10-07 11:15:53 UTC
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
Super Stallion wrote:
if Dust is to succeed, it will be due to the FPS community embrasing it, not the Eve Community.

Embracing.

If Dust is to do what it says it's going to do, it needs to not be ignored by the Eve Community... And it needs to give the Eve community a reason to care.

Right now, it doesn't.


What exactly is DUST even supposed to do for us? I mean does anyone know something concrete about what the release will actually contain without shoveling us some future vision type of stuff. So far what I've heard is, that it's mostly irrelevant for us, but it may not be at some point in the future. Am I supposed to be excited for that? That just sounds like they've got nothing concrete to show/deliver, that is of any importance to us. I hope I'm wrong, but currently they've given me no reason to believe so.
Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#158 - 2012-10-07 11:28:35 UTC
I hope that it gets made for the PC, otherwise i imagine i won't be playing it. Certainly not going to fork out my cash to buy a playstation for it.

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.  

Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#159 - 2012-10-07 11:34:32 UTC
I just don't give a crap about console games at first, then FPS "uber" games are always, always and absolutely always crack by Aimbot fans and this one will not be different, if it's not already available it will be soon available on Steam with full cracks for a couple dollars.

Pick together console games + FPS (regroups the largest hackers community player style) = uninteresting for me.

The game it self looks cool but it looks as cool as many other FPS games with different ways to suit your dude etc but it's just another FPS game to me nothing else, at least for now.
Not spiting on those guys work but even if I can understand this market is the kind of market CCP needs to be and bring THE + others don't (single shard/connection with Eve), attract more customers etc.

If you make a PC version some day CCP I will play it when I get bored of Eve, because this happens and when it happens I already play some FPS games, but PC FPS games.

brb

J Kunjeh
#160 - 2012-10-07 15:43:19 UTC
I for one am very excited about the future of Dust and Eve together. The concept is amazing technologically, and gameplay-wise...it's never been done before, and that alone is enough to keep me excited to see what comes of it. If they can pull it off in a meaningful way, it'll be a big deal. I think it'll be a slow burn, just like Eve was, but that eventually it'll be a deep and meaningful part of New Eden.

I've not played it yet, but I'm following the news. I have a PS3, but I'm not one for beta's, so I'm waiting for release (though I might be tempted to join the open beta when it comes around). One additional reason I'm interested is time; I've never had the time needed to get into Eve in a way that's meaningful for me personally, but I can spare 30 minutes here and there to go shoot things in Dust, so it's possible I'd end up playing it far more and in more depth than I ever did/do Eve itself.

"The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5)