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Is Duality up Today?

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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#1 - 2012-10-02 15:06:06 UTC
I see no mention of it, and not in a position now to log and try myself, but I have just read a post from someone saying they logged on today.
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#2 - 2012-10-02 15:32:30 UTC
Duality is not up nor is it coming up this weekend.

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#3 - 2012-10-02 15:33:11 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Duality is not up nor is it coming up this weekend.


Thanks.
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#4 - 2012-10-04 15:47:06 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Duality is not up nor is it coming up this weekend.


Can you give us an explanation on why it is not up, nor will not be up this weekend?
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#5 - 2012-10-05 10:54:58 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
Duality is not up nor is it coming up this weekend.


Can you give us an explanation on why it is not up, nor will not be up this weekend?


Sure, it's not up because I want people testing on Buckingham right now. It won't be up this weekend, nor next weekend, for the same reason. Also, the purpose of Duality is to have short, focused tests on code far in advance of it being "release ready". These tests are requested by the teams, and I schedule them.

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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#6 - 2012-10-05 11:04:50 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
Duality is not up nor is it coming up this weekend.


Can you give us an explanation on why it is not up, nor will not be up this weekend?


Sure, it's not up because I want people testing on Buckingham right now. It won't be up this weekend, nor next weekend, for the same reason. Also, the purpose of Duality is to have short, focused tests on code far in advance of it being "release ready". These tests are requested by the teams, and I schedule them.

Could you start a Buckingham change log? The last version added "the add channel back to the chat windows" and districts are currently disabled. There is not much to test it seemsWhat?.

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CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#7 - 2012-10-05 12:45:40 UTC
Salpun wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
Duality is not up nor is it coming up this weekend.


Can you give us an explanation on why it is not up, nor will not be up this weekend?


Sure, it's not up because I want people testing on Buckingham right now. It won't be up this weekend, nor next weekend, for the same reason. Also, the purpose of Duality is to have short, focused tests on code far in advance of it being "release ready". These tests are requested by the teams, and I schedule them.

Could you start a Buckingham change log? The last version added "the add channel back to the chat windows" and districts are currently disabled. There is not much to test it seemsWhat?.


A large majority of Buckingham changes are backend tech stuff that is very low level and touches many systems in the game. Just through normal activity we get a good idea of if there are problems or not. As I have stated quite a few times, I have no plans to provide patch notes on a test server. I do update feature lists when we have a large release and I need testing to be focused, but for this, it would not be a good use of my time.

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath
Rengerel en Distel
#8 - 2012-10-05 13:36:54 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Salpun wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
Duality is not up nor is it coming up this weekend.


Can you give us an explanation on why it is not up, nor will not be up this weekend?


Sure, it's not up because I want people testing on Buckingham right now. It won't be up this weekend, nor next weekend, for the same reason. Also, the purpose of Duality is to have short, focused tests on code far in advance of it being "release ready". These tests are requested by the teams, and I schedule them.

Could you start a Buckingham change log? The last version added "the add channel back to the chat windows" and districts are currently disabled. There is not much to test it seemsWhat?.


A large majority of Buckingham changes are backend tech stuff that is very low level and touches many systems in the game. Just through normal activity we get a good idea of if there are problems or not. As I have stated quite a few times, I have no plans to provide patch notes on a test server. I do update feature lists when we have a large release and I need testing to be focused, but for this, it would not be a good use of my time.


I guess a better use of your time is answering the same question over and over again in multiple threads, because you can't be bothered to post a sticky. You want us to test on buckingham, with no idea of what to test, and none of the changes posted in the blogs on buckingham to test. Hard to imagine why there are generally 20 people on the server.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Sekket
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-10-06 20:24:14 UTC
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
[quote=CCP Goliath]I guess a better use of your time is answering the same question over and over again in multiple threads, because you can't be bothered to post a sticky. You want us to test on buckingham, with no idea of what to test, and none of the changes posted in the blogs on buckingham to test. Hard to imagine why there are generally 20 people on the server.



To be fair he did say that normal use gave him good data for the changes that happen day to day on Buckingham.
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CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#10 - 2012-10-07 02:00:10 UTC
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
Salpun wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
Duality is not up nor is it coming up this weekend.


Can you give us an explanation on why it is not up, nor will not be up this weekend?


Sure, it's not up because I want people testing on Buckingham right now. It won't be up this weekend, nor next weekend, for the same reason. Also, the purpose of Duality is to have short, focused tests on code far in advance of it being "release ready". These tests are requested by the teams, and I schedule them.

Could you start a Buckingham change log? The last version added "the add channel back to the chat windows" and districts are currently disabled. There is not much to test it seemsWhat?.


A large majority of Buckingham changes are backend tech stuff that is very low level and touches many systems in the game. Just through normal activity we get a good idea of if there are problems or not. As I have stated quite a few times, I have no plans to provide patch notes on a test server. I do update feature lists when we have a large release and I need testing to be focused, but for this, it would not be a good use of my time.


I guess a better use of your time is answering the same question over and over again in multiple threads, because you can't be bothered to post a sticky. You want us to test on buckingham, with no idea of what to test, and none of the changes posted in the blogs on buckingham to test. Hard to imagine why there are generally 20 people on the server.



When I need something specific tested, I ask for it and sticky it. When I don't, I don't. If you had read the replies that I posted in those multiple threads, you would know that the blogs going out just now are for the winter release, and that Buckingham currently hosts a different release. You would also know that Duality hosts snippets of the winter release, and that when its up and I need something tested on it, I or the team responsible for the changes post and sticky it.

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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#11 - 2012-10-07 05:35:44 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:


When I need something specific tested, I ask for it and sticky it. When I don't, I don't. If you had read the replies that I posted in those multiple threads, you would know that the blogs going out just now are for the winter release, and that Buckingham currently hosts a different release. You would also know that Duality hosts snippets of the winter release, and that when its up and I need something tested on it, I or the team responsible for the changes post and sticky it.


So bottom line, the new AI changes, which affect a huge portion of the ISK generation of Eve, are just not that important to get Duality ASAP up for customer testing and feedback?
Allandri
Liandri Industrial
#12 - 2012-10-07 11:38:37 UTC
Deal with it. The test server should never be relied on for convenience
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#13 - 2012-10-07 12:43:02 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:


When I need something specific tested, I ask for it and sticky it. When I don't, I don't. If you had read the replies that I posted in those multiple threads, you would know that the blogs going out just now are for the winter release, and that Buckingham currently hosts a different release. You would also know that Duality hosts snippets of the winter release, and that when its up and I need something tested on it, I or the team responsible for the changes post and sticky it.


So bottom line, the new AI changes, which affect a huge portion of the ISK generation of Eve, are just not that important to get Duality ASAP up for customer testing and feedback?


I like your enthusiasm, but please show me some professional respect and not escalate things to pointless states of hyperbole.

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath
Jarin Arenos
Card Shark Industries
#14 - 2012-10-07 18:24:10 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:


When I need something specific tested, I ask for it and sticky it. When I don't, I don't. If you had read the replies that I posted in those multiple threads, you would know that the blogs going out just now are for the winter release, and that Buckingham currently hosts a different release. You would also know that Duality hosts snippets of the winter release, and that when its up and I need something tested on it, I or the team responsible for the changes post and sticky it.


So bottom line, the new AI changes, which affect a huge portion of the ISK generation of Eve, are just not that important to get Duality ASAP up for customer testing and feedback?


I like your enthusiasm, but please show me some professional respect and not escalate things to pointless states of hyperbole.

I respectfully submit that you may not be giving appropriate priority to the testing of the new AI changes.

But I'm not CCP Soundwave, so what do I know?
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#15 - 2012-10-08 22:43:21 UTC
Jarin Arenos wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:


When I need something specific tested, I ask for it and sticky it. When I don't, I don't. If you had read the replies that I posted in those multiple threads, you would know that the blogs going out just now are for the winter release, and that Buckingham currently hosts a different release. You would also know that Duality hosts snippets of the winter release, and that when its up and I need something tested on it, I or the team responsible for the changes post and sticky it.


So bottom line, the new AI changes, which affect a huge portion of the ISK generation of Eve, are just not that important to get Duality ASAP up for customer testing and feedback?


I like your enthusiasm, but please show me some professional respect and not escalate things to pointless states of hyperbole.

I respectfully submit that you may not be giving appropriate priority to the testing of the new AI changes.


I really appreciate the tone of your post - genuinely. That being said, the stuff we're putting out to TQ in a week takes priority over stuff we're putting out to TQ in December. We originally intended to get the AI changes on Duality on the weekend of the 28th of September, but unfortunately due to circumstances beyond our control that was made impossible. I'm not overly concerned though - we're still in plenty of time to make changes with the current schedule.

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Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#16 - 2012-10-09 09:31:45 UTC
+1 for possibly the most respectful exchange of posts in an internet argument ever.

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#17 - 2012-10-14 04:25:27 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
I really appreciate the tone of your post - genuinely. That being said, the stuff we're putting out to TQ in a week takes priority over stuff we're putting out to TQ in December. We originally intended to get the AI changes on Duality on the weekend of the 28th of September, but unfortunately due to circumstances beyond our control that was made impossible. I'm not overly concerned though - we're still in plenty of time to make changes with the current schedule.


Will you (and/or your people) be posting a specific "Level One AI is now active on Singularity/Duality/Buckingham" message when the new AI is released?

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bassie12bf1
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-10-14 10:23:20 UTC
So, there's gonna be a patch on TQ in a week?

I don't think anyone knew that one.