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Official Protest - Mittani should be removed from CSM - *** UPDATED RESPONSE POSTED ***

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Jovan Geldon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#621 - 2011-10-17 16:37:24 UTC
At the risk of actually contributing to this trainwreck of a thread, I should point out that "The Mittani" is a character in the internet spaceship game EVE Online.

"Alexander Gianturco" is a member of the Council of Stellar Management, a player-run lobbyist group given stakeholder status by CCP hf., aiming to improve the aforementioned internet spaceship game for all its players.

If you can't appreciate the difference, I suggest you seek psychiatric assistance.
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#622 - 2011-10-17 16:46:29 UTC
Can you explain to me, oh great and wise OP, why every single one of your posts has EXACTLY 6 likes? Is that how many accounts you have?

Hey everyone, make sure that any post disagreeing with the OP gets a like out f you too... OP is just circlejerkin, lets all join in Bear

And, and for the record, I voted for Mittens on one account(my pvp one) and Trebor on my Indy alt. BecauseMittens is good for the game, and the other 7 Non-goon CSM can temper his bloodlust ;)

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.

Shadako
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#623 - 2011-10-17 16:46:44 UTC
Just Another Toon wrote:
CCP Phantom wrote:
Thread moved from General Disucssion.


Why? to stop it getting exposure? No reads this forum..you should but it back...


Blammo
Generals4
#624 - 2011-10-17 17:06:08 UTC
Xython wrote:
Generals4 wrote:
While i have nothing against the GOONS nor mittani i do find the whole concept of having someone who's sole purpose is to ruin this game to represent the players to be quite disturbing. I guess the better solution would be to ensure that everyone actually goes to the voting booth. I doubt someone like mittani would be elected for such a job ever again.


In what way is Mittani's sole purpose to ruin the game? That's the most foolhardy, strawman-filled nonsense I've read today, which is impressive cause I did in fact load EN24.

Sorry to say this, but The Mittani and the cartoon caricature of The Mittani you little pubbies have in your imaginations are not one and the same. He loves this game enough that he was willing to put his entire life on hold just to go to CCP's HQ and try to stop the Jita riots. If he didn't like the game, he would have been out in force in the gaming media throwing gas on the fire.

Listen, just because the big bad goonies destroyed your ice miner bot, it doesn't mean they want to destroy the game. In fact, as I'm pointed out several times in this thread, if you love this game, you'd be out destroying and reporting ice miner bots too. They are the cancer that is killing EVE, just like they were the cancer that all but killed Asheron's Call.


You're not making your alliance look any better by reacting like what i would call a primary school kid. I don't mine ice, never had and never will. Nor do i care a tiny bit about what you do in Gallente space. I'm however expressing my opinion based on what i've seen and read. I may be wrong but GOONS aren't really known for being those who are helpful in any possible way. Which isn't bad per se, i merely have my doubts about whether such people representing the community as a whole is a bright idea.

_-Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. _

Just Another Toon
Doomheim
#625 - 2011-10-17 17:10:42 UTC
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Can you explain to me, oh great and wise OP, why every single one of your posts has EXACTLY 6 likes? Is that how many accounts you have?

Hey everyone, make sure that any post disagreeing with the OP gets a like out f you too... OP is just circlejerkin, lets all join in Bear

And, and for the record, I voted for Mittens on one account(my pvp one) and Trebor on my Indy alt. BecauseMittens is good for the game, and the other 7 Non-goon CSM can temper his bloodlust ;)


lol nice consipracy theory - thats funny....
oh if you say so...
Two step
Aperture Harmonics
#626 - 2011-10-17 17:24:02 UTC
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Can you explain to me, oh great and wise OP, why every single one of your posts has EXACTLY 6 likes? Is that how many accounts you have?

Hey everyone, make sure that any post disagreeing with the OP gets a like out f you too... OP is just circlejerkin, lets all join in Bear

And, and for the record, I voted for Mittens on one account(my pvp one) and Trebor on my Indy alt. BecauseMittens is good for the game, and the other 7 Non-goon CSM can temper his bloodlust ;)


Actually, one can like their own post if you switch to an alt, so he probably has 3 accounts.

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The Mittani
State War Academy
Caldari State
#627 - 2011-10-17 17:43:56 UTC
Ciar Meara wrote:

No fan of The Mittani, but often he makes some sense. He badly misjudged the whole aurm/nex store thing and thus allowed the incarna/ambulation project to be stillborn (no player control/influence/sandbox in stations = dead stations). But he was not alone in that and would have had little control over it until CCP changes/changed business practices.

So yes The Mittani can be annoying, but the OP should not have a hissy fit.


This doesn't even make a lick of sense, and I've read it three times now. /I/ misjudged the NeX rollout, and /I/ ****** up Incarna?

I don't get paid a CCP salary, kiddo. Not my expansion, not my fault.

~hi~

Vaffel Junior
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#628 - 2011-10-17 17:52:19 UTC
Two step wrote:
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Can you explain to me, oh great and wise OP, why every single one of your posts has EXACTLY 6 likes? Is that how many accounts you have?

Hey everyone, make sure that any post disagreeing with the OP gets a like out f you too... OP is just circlejerkin, lets all join in Bear

And, and for the record, I voted for Mittens on one account(my pvp one) and Trebor on my Indy alt. BecauseMittens is good for the game, and the other 7 Non-goon CSM can temper his bloodlust ;)


Actually, one can like their own post if you switch to an alt, so he probably has 3 accounts.


You are soooo wrong
Khalia Nestune
Mad Stacks
#629 - 2011-10-17 18:05:15 UTC
The tears here are so, so sweet.

I'm voting for the Mittani in the next CSM elections; I never cared very much before, but this campaign has made me a huge fan.

Keep up the excellent work.

http://www.mylootyourtears.com

CapnWinkie
Doomheim
#630 - 2011-10-17 18:09:33 UTC
Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't he be banned anyway for exploitation of game mechanics; instructing everyone participating in the Ice ganking fest on how to get ride of Concord so they won't properly do their job?
Luctor Etemergo
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#631 - 2011-10-17 18:15:03 UTC
CapnWinkie wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't he be banned anyway for exploitation of game mechanics; instructing everyone participating in the Ice ganking fest on how to get ride of Concord so they won't properly do their job?


You need to play more and get a more in depth grip of game mechanics.
Everything the goons do is within the limits and rules of the game and its mechanics. If you do feel this is not the case, feel free to petition one of them and see the GM response.
CapnWinkie
Doomheim
#632 - 2011-10-17 18:18:20 UTC
Luctor Etemergo wrote:
CapnWinkie wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't he be banned anyway for exploitation of game mechanics; instructing everyone participating in the Ice ganking fest on how to get ride of Concord so they won't properly do their job?


You need to play more and get a more in depth grip of game mechanics.
Everything the goons do is within the limits and rules of the game and its mechanics. If you do feel this is not the case, feel free to petition one of them and see the GM response.



I'm reading what CCP says about it and I have to disagree. I'm not sure I can report it as it hasn't happened to me; I' not a miner.
Zirse
Risktech Analytics
#633 - 2011-10-17 18:20:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Zirse
Its not an exploit to move Concord around as long as you don't use throwaway alts to do it.

Edit: And it will be nice that this thread can finally die and its amazing amount of dumb can rest in peace.
Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#634 - 2011-10-17 18:20:35 UTC
The Mittani wrote:
Ciar Meara wrote:

No fan of The Mittani, but often he makes some sense. He badly misjudged the whole aurm/nex store thing and thus allowed the incarna/ambulation project to be stillborn (no player control/influence/sandbox in stations = dead stations). But he was not alone in that and would have had little control over it until CCP changes/changed business practices.

So yes The Mittani can be annoying, but the OP should not have a hissy fit.


This doesn't even make a lick of sense, and I've read it three times now. /I/ misjudged the NeX rollout, and /I/ ****** up Incarna?

I don't get paid a CCP salary, kiddo. Not my expansion, not my fault.



Silence Hilmar.

Where I am.

Gallosek
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#635 - 2011-10-17 18:23:45 UTC
ahahahahahaaaa,

Oh, and there is a mechanic for punishing those who shoot innocent people in highsec, it is called Concord, and it is very successfully killing every single one of those ships agressing the miners.

You could always take a new tack, with all that money you're making mining, buy your own gank ships and get the first shot in :)

Or mine something else, somewhere else.

Or do some missions.

Or join whoever-is-fighting-goons in nullsec and either mine there, and help invade goon territory.

Or try FW

Or Incursions

Or ninja salvage all those goon wrecks being generated

Or move into a WH and mine/rat there

Or try market speculation

Or try highsec warfare

Or take a break and go sightseeing (the EVE gate is a dissappointment, but the shattered planets are epic)

Or read all the Eve Chronicles and books

Or try to collect one of every item in the whole of eve

Or infiltrate another corp and run off with their stuff one day

Or find something entirely new and unexpected to do :)
Venus Vermillion
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#636 - 2011-10-17 18:29:53 UTC
Oh god help us! Someone is playing the game the way they want to and holding a position at the same time! The game is going to be destroyed because someone is representing the views of a good 33% of the game and not my own personal interests exactly as I believe they should!

Lastly, we're all going to die because I didn't find and ****-up this thread sooner.
Deopheel Dalonne
Eridu Productions
#637 - 2011-10-17 18:30:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Deopheel Dalonne
Goons like to identify with the IIIrd Reich ("GoonWaffe" and also the uniforms of certain goons like Andski and others).
Goons like to identify with islamic terrorism (Jihad, Osama bin Laden in a recent Mittani post)
Mitanni likes to compare himself to Stalin (same post as above).

Ok, this is a game. But there is a limit. Once it is crossed, it just becomes distasetful.

Look at this quote, for example:
The Mittani wrote:
Pay no attention to this kulak and his revisionist line; the People's Soviets of Goonswarm have a free and open accounting of their finances, and our socialist science has brough about the closest realization of socialism ever seen in EVE.

This is really not funny. When "kulaks" were targeted by the soviets in Ukraine in the 1930s, millions died in a state-induced artificial famine.

Do we really want to play alongside individual who consider such dreadful memories as toys to have fun with ?

Does CCP want to have such people as customers ?
FOl2TY8
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#638 - 2011-10-17 18:36:47 UTC
Darius III wrote:
I concur with OP. What Mittani has done, as chairman no less, clearly shows he doesnt take his position seriously and should be voted out. +1


I think Darius should be voted out because of his misogynistic signature.
Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
#639 - 2011-10-17 18:41:51 UTC
This thread is going to garner Mittens at least a thousand new votes in the next election.

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Zirse
Risktech Analytics
#640 - 2011-10-17 18:44:20 UTC
Deopheel Dalonne wrote:
Goons like to identify with the IIIrd Reich ("GoonWaffe" and also the uniforms of certain goons like Andski and others).
Goons like to identify with islamic terrorism (Jihad, Osama bin Laden in a recent Mittani post)
Mitanni likes to compare himself to Stalin (same post as above).

Ok, this is a game. But there is a limit. Once it is crossed, it just becomes distasetful.

Look at this quote, for example:
The Mittani wrote:
Pay no attention to this kulak and his revisionist line; the People's Soviets of Goonswarm have a free and open accounting of their finances, and our socialist science has brough about the closest realization of socialism ever seen in EVE.

This is really not funny. When "kulaks" were targeted by the soviets in Ukraine in the 1930s, millions died in a state-induced artificial famine.

Do we really want to play alongside individual who consider such dreadful memories as toys to have fun with ?

Does CCP want to have such people as customers ?


They do that to elicit a response from people such as yourself. If you can't appreciate the irony then just ignore it. I for one find it hilarious, and like most Goons am not a Stalinst/fascist/rascist etc. And yes for the record, CCP would love to take their money.