Ships & Modules

In using EFT to forecast the resist values on a Tengu I am fitting, the EM and explosive resist values are much higher in EFT when I add an EM Ward Field II and an Explosive Deflection Field II to the mid slots. The numbers are off by between 17 and 21 percentage points (EM: 58% vs 75% and Explosive 56% vs 77%). The base numbers match, and the skills for my character are fully updated in EFT. Any ideas on why the wide discrepancies?

The in game fitting window include the resists they provide in their current state. Turn them on and the fitting window will consider them to be active.
With mods like the RAH that change resists over time, that's the way it has to be, especially since hardeners can be neuted off and you still want to be able to tell what your resists are if needed.

Undock and open your fitting window and see what you have with the modules on.

I'm surprised you guys think that's a working game mechanic. Undocking to check values is a workaround, you have to do something silly and inconvenient in order to produce a result you should be able to produce from inside of the station.

You don't really have to look further then EFT to see a tool done right, you can enable, disable, offline and overload modules at will all from inside the toolset window to instantly see the different values. Adjust for different resistance profiles and even see how your future skill trainings will affect your current fit.

That's a working tool, the ingame fitting tool is not.

Repair amounts don't change with resistances.

No, but the fitting window fails to show you the effective hit points repaired per cycle/second.

Not sure why anyone would like to have a simulator in FITTING window.

You can't see fleet bonuses in fitting window when docked, and even if you could there are so many parameters (shiptype, skills for booster) that ccp would have to spend months to implement it.

Crying for something that you could solve with a little work is stupid imo. In-game fitting is just that, a fitting tool. If you want all the other 100 different things EFT could do, then use one. Stop whining.

Do you know what EHP is? Or how EFT calculates it? EFT assumes you get hit with an ammo with equal damage pattern and tells you your EHP. You change ammo type and you get a different value. Its a theoretical value not your actual one. Hence there is no point having that in your in-game tool without giving the option to select damage types etc etc which will make it another useless direction to focus on when you have a perfectly good out of the game tools like pyfa or eft.

You're literally QQing because you are mad the devs won't spend months replicating the entire functionality of a free 3rd party application instead of attending to more important stuff?

Well bad news, Dust has a fiting window too.

And they shouldn't, simply because it's a physical repair amount. doesn't matter if said ship has 99.9% resistances or 0, when you repair 800armor it's always 800 armor.

Plus, as you just rightly said, this tool is really awesome. Could it be better? -maybe, but I's already enough and think adding complications with extra data of effective resists with active modules and effective resist vs dmg type would not only be bad hamsters wise but it's far better to be part of 3rd party out of game application offering more options for theorycrafting.