Intergalactic Summit

A little research into my kb will show you i dont pilot t1 frigs, if it makes your feel superior to think your part of a small elite group of players that have managed to step out of t1 frigate hulls be my guest.

This is true, I did see you in Sahtogas plexing a few times...

Though i think the fleets of SFI's which went on the offensive during certain times and made 20-30% inroads to capturing before we could muster the numbers to retake installations and pushing back you're gains may be insulted by you're statement.

For a time it really was a case of rebuilding the defences during the night and you knocking them down duting the day, is it easy for you to clutch at the excuse that you not want that system anyway ? perhaps it was just the case our small group wanted it more and had the pride to try and hold it despite everyone telling us it was a lost cause.

You also should learn to operate a basic onboard ship scanner when you have the time, to claim I should undock to fight you and you're 20 odd man fleet when I was actually rather heroically defending a minor compound not 4 AU from you're own position did raise an eyebrow and a chuckle, then again I am easily entertained.

Your killboard lists a t1 frig as your most used ship for the entire month. With twice as much kills as the second most used ship.

No, I consider myself part of a group of terrible spazzes, that are too drunk to find their way out of a pod. I've never once commented on our abilities, what I have commented on is the lack of your contributions. By any metric we do more for the gallente than you, I've yet to see you or your fellow militia members or allies in any way contribute more to our or gallentes(in the rare cases they diverge) efforts than what the poor pilots stranded in kamela, blobbed beyond belief did and still do.

Point is, you sit on high horses and think we should help you even though you help our foes and shoot our allies, just because you think you're helping us. Start actually doing anything that isn't counterproductive and I'm more than happy to throw some helping crumbs your way, might even sponsor a cruiser for you. If not, you can always play your t1 frig game and try to make up ways of how you're the cogs that make wheels turn rather than bugs trying to outrun the windshield.

Still splitting hairs are we? A tech 1 frig is a tech 1 frig. I don't really care how much you paid for it. I've got a 700 mil badger to sell you if you're interested.


Never suggested you did. You did however whine about us not being "pro gallente" because we did what served gallente best. Not sure if it's hypocracy or just failure to understand. I really don't care either way, but fact of the matter is that we seem to be doing more for gallente than you are, even though we try not to.


I'm not sure what war I'm losing? Am I homeless? Am I out of ships? Are we losing members?

The one thing I do notice we're losing is respect for you and targets to shoot. I guess if that's what the war is about, we're definitely losing.

Point is, we do stuff, we kill stuff. We're terribly bad at it, it's just that there's virtually no one in minmatar even trying. (Yes, there are exceptions as mentioned, but the pilots who reside to argue about how their tier of tech 1 frigate being more relevant than the next is really not part of it).

I'm not jumping between any points mate, I'm explaining some simple facts and pointing out where your illusions fail.

No, you have never once showed up to help anything. We have asked you for things, I admit. Staying out of kamela was one of those things. Did you?
I'd LOVE to see you bringing a substantial fleet to do anything "progallente" though. I realise it will never happen, but that you will try to come up with some battlereport in a random irrelevant system where your brave pilots brought their t1 cruisers and frigates to shoot at some random targets crossing your path as you tried to kill some NPCs. But by all means, humour me.

We don't generally have anything against minmatar. They don't do anything for us, they're generally useless in all aspects of the word and we have no contact with them. There are exceptions whom we do happily help and cooperate with, but you know... those are the ones who actually want to fight or contribute. Personally, I consider it an achievement in the best interest of gallente, to scare some people who are not willing to fight in the first place off. It's not us not willing to cooperate for any mutual goals, it's just there's nothing to cooperate with, let alone for.

As for the last hypocritical paragraph I enjoy it alot. WBR and their alliance is a factional warfare neutral alliance living in gallente space. I'm more than happy to hear your story about how and why they're not allowed to help friends in gallente?

But by all means, list any metric of what you do if you fight the gallente fight, highlight the ones where you, your corp, your alliance do better than me, my corp or my alliance. Or better yet, find any single actual gallente corp that suggests we're hostile or not cooperating.

Ok ill speak simply because i dont understand where your confusing my word's.

I have never said we do more for gallente than you, that would be ignorant, your clearly already in that war zone we are not therefore your going to be doing a hell of a lot more than we are.

The singular thing SOTF ever asked of us, to my knowledge, was to stay out of Kamela, An enemy Capital system,WBR's home. If we asked you not to capture the main Caldari alliances home locking them out of all capital asset's, would you do it? You've pointed out how little we do for the Gallente war zone but SOTF does nothing for our warzone, so why the hell would we listen to you and not take Kamela? epecially when its widely known that SOTF and WBR are BFF's The fact the way you asked us not to take it was by telling us if we tried you would drop 20 guardian's on us and rep the enemy fleet (which you did) didnt help.

The OP in question had nothing to do with SOTF it was Villore etc that asked for our help. we formed a 60 ish man fleet, and our job was to fight the caldari whilst the Gallente secured about 2 systems and captured 3, i cant remember the name of the systems but they were all gallente home systems.

To claim WBR are fw neutral is a joke, maybe they are currently not in the 24thIC but they were the main Amarrian Corp for years.

Don't be mad black watch guard are irrelevant wbr were the only guys to put up a decent fight now that's agony (let's not forget shirak and tmfed)

Given the number of OOC posts and references, I am locking this thread.