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Dev blog: If you smell smoke, look for fire

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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#141 - 2012-10-06 15:40:16 UTC  |  Edited by: MeBiatch
i know you guys were just trying to be funny with the illuminati picture but in the future i would recommend doing some homework before putting an image up like that going forward...

i would err on the caution that: "could this be offensive?"

if the answer is maybe?

then go with something else...

illuminati a thin veil to anti semitism

some more sites if the first was not enough for you

same image as the blog which was used by the Germans in WWII propaganda

oh and this is an interesting article that shows someone who was ignorant of the symbol who just had to remove a painting from London because of it.

Nesta Helen Webster who wrote books in the early 20th century depicting the illuminati being run by jews.


much thanks and keep up the good work super excited for live events


MeBiatch.

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
OMGFRIGATES WARPOUT
Perkone
Caldari State
#142 - 2012-10-06 15:46:19 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
i know you guys were just trying to be funny with the illuminati picture but in the future i would recommend doing some homework before putting an image up like that going forward...

i would err on the caution that: "could this be offensive?"

if the answer is maybe?

then go with something else...

illuminati a thin veil to anti semitism


much thanks and keep up the good work super excited for live events


MeBiatch.



LOL - There's this cross and you should climb down off it...Oh wait!
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#143 - 2012-10-06 16:04:56 UTC
you know i did not want to complain about this but its been bothering me since i saw the photo yesterday...

i'll just quote what is forum policy and i would think so too should be dev blog policy.

CCP Navigator wrote:

Ok, here is what I will say about the use of 'Jewgold', Jewing' and other terms of that nature. They don't add anything of value to a discussion. The very terminology is offensive to many and completely unnecessary. There are many of our players who are Jewish and they should not be subjected to phrasing which makes them and others feel uncomfortable.


I knew i would be flamed by people for posting this but i could not just let it pass...

sorry for detracting from the topic at hand which is live events....

going forward i will just petition things like this then complaining on the forums...

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Mikaila Penshar
SISTAHs of EVE
#144 - 2012-10-06 16:52:02 UTC
Newsflash.....


CCP attempts



wait for it....



"Roleplay-Trollplay".
Further FAIL to follow
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#145 - 2012-10-06 16:54:15 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
i know you guys were just trying to be funny with the illuminati picture but in the future i would recommend doing some homework before putting an image up like that going forward...

i would err on the caution that: "could this be offensive?"

if the answer is maybe?

then go with something else...

illuminati a thin veil to anti semitism


much thanks and keep up the good work super excited for live events


MeBiatch.

LOL

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
Mikaila Penshar
SISTAHs of EVE
#146 - 2012-10-06 17:10:02 UTC
Hey with all the focus on this thread I was hoping one of you DEVs could direct a UI DEV to this thread below for some interface love ..thanks kindly. :-*


right click to find item in your own assets
Stephen Padecain
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#147 - 2012-10-06 18:00:08 UTC
ITT: All the reasons why I never freaking use forums anymore. In twelve years, forum culture has changed exactly nil.

All of that aside, I love the idea of live events. People can gripe about lore, RP, or whatever else they want, but live events make games feel more dynamic and provide a whole trove of "You should have been there!" moments. Granted, that is what EVE is almost entirely about, but it's nice to see the devs take a more direct role in altering our collective narrative.

And as with everything else in EVE... if you don't care for this new live event stuff, just don't do it? Why ***** on the forums about it?
Aliventi
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#148 - 2012-10-06 18:11:51 UTC
I think it would be cool and useful if you could give people like Kiras Okoro (The Guristas Pirates guy who said they were showing up at Ohkunen) some sort of Dev like tag so we could jump to their posts in the forums and would set them apart for everyone else.
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din
Commonwealth Vanguard
#149 - 2012-10-06 18:24:22 UTC
Great to see live events back. Oh and everything is ok unless you start on ginger people, we have no soul and can see in the dark too. Beware.

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#150 - 2012-10-06 18:30:07 UTC
Aliventi wrote:
I think it would be cool and useful if you could give people like Kiras Okoro (The Guristas Pirates guy who said they were showing up at Ohkunen) some sort of Dev like tag so we could jump to their posts in the forums and would set them apart for everyone else.


Well they are in NPC corps that other players cant, and if you add them to watchlist they show no loged in even if they are loged in to game. Bear

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#151 - 2012-10-06 18:33:35 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
i know you guys were just trying to be funny with the illuminati picture but in the future i would recommend doing some homework before putting an image up like that going forward...

i would err on the caution that: "could this be offensive?"

if the answer is maybe?

then go with something else...

illuminati a thin veil to anti semitism


much thanks and keep up the good work super excited for live events


MeBiatch.


I'm totally unsure if you're trolling, but if you read the article you linked, you'll see the quote says "The alleged continued existence of the "Illuminati" looms large in many... crank anti-Semitic and anti-Masonic writings". You know that the "anti-semitic writings" are targeted *against* the (defunct since the 1700s) secret society known as the Illuminati, which is in no way connected to our development team except in name? Should Team Superfriends change their name because of the comic covers found on Superdickery? Or should we all worry much less about team names and focus on what the teams are outputting.

BTW, if you're erring on the side of caution: "could this be offensive? if the answer is maybe? then go with something else..." you might want to have a look at your own name there bro.

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#152 - 2012-10-06 18:34:00 UTC
Rico Minali wrote:
Great to see live events back. Oh and everything is ok unless you start on ginger people, we have no soul and can see in the dark too. Beware.


Ginger right here bro.

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#153 - 2012-10-06 18:35:21 UTC
Aliventi wrote:
I think it would be cool and useful if you could give people like Kiras Okoro (The Guristas Pirates guy who said they were showing up at Ohkunen) some sort of Dev like tag so we could jump to their posts in the forums and would set them apart for everyone else.


I would be a little concerned with cluttering up the sides of threads (e.g., what if it contains a Dev post, a GM post, a CSM post, an Actor post). I feel things would get a bit crowded. Still, I'll discuss the idea with our web team and see if I'm wrong.

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#154 - 2012-10-06 18:38:02 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Aliventi wrote:
I think it would be cool and useful if you could give people like Kiras Okoro (The Guristas Pirates guy who said they were showing up at Ohkunen) some sort of Dev like tag so we could jump to their posts in the forums and would set them apart for everyone else.


I would be a little concerned with cluttering up the sides of threads (e.g., what if it contains a Dev post, a GM post, a CSM post, an Actor post). I feel things would get a bit crowded. Still, I'll discuss the idea with our web team and see if I'm wrong.


In the old forum, CCP Live Event actors had "green boundaries" outlining their posts.

Perhaps something similar? Not a tag, but the "green boundary?"

Here is an example:

http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1318980
Jayyne Cobb
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#155 - 2012-10-06 19:04:38 UTC
I really cant tell WTKFC this is...IC or OOC...
the previous blog did nothing to explain it besides point to a 42-minute youtube video.

Aint Nobody Got Time Fo Dat!
Xylorn Hasher
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#156 - 2012-10-06 20:46:19 UTC
I hope this time CCP will take at least one Titan with them and a few supers. If not they will be raped faster than in Tama last time.

Who is up for Arty Nados fleet?
We will insta pop CCPs bastards

YARRRR!!!!!!!

All my posts are made shortly after Marihuana consumption.
Korbin Dallaz
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#157 - 2012-10-06 21:15:44 UTC
Ghostdog9 wrote:
This explains nothing. nor does the blog post.



this
Korbin Dallaz
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#158 - 2012-10-06 21:24:38 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
khajay v virras wrote:
don't go low-sec, you'll be ***** quick...


Big claim, but absolutely not the case



I submit this as evidence that Devs don't actually play this game.
Justin Cody
War Firm
#159 - 2012-10-06 21:37:04 UTC
Korbin Dallaz wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
khajay v virras wrote:
don't go low-sec, you'll be ***** quick...


Big claim, but absolutely not the case



I submit this as evidence that Devs don't actually play this game.


I submit that you should join a real corp or post with your main
Korbin Dallaz
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#160 - 2012-10-06 21:46:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Korbin Dallaz
CCP Goliath wrote:
Ghostdog9 wrote:
This explains nothing. nor does the blog post.


Indeed! How exciting and mysterious!

Actually it does explain a fair bit if you read between the lines (or just the lines P)

Too cryptic, didnt read? - Live Events are back



There are few things in game that I dislike more than RP bullshit but reading lots of useless crap that give no information is definitely one of them. It would be really nice if you guys could find a way to separate bullshit from information. Lately your news posts have linked to threadnaughts of nothingness.

Earlier this week you posted about making bounty hunting a profession with literally no details. I've read this post and am 7 pages into the comments and still have no idea what is going on or if this is something that I should go out of my way to get involved in. That lack of details leads me to believe that it is propaganda bullshit looking for cheap advertising bragging rites while adding nothing to the game.

I agree with the guy that said it sounds like a huge waste of Dev time.