EVE General Discussion

Nice job, Touval Lysander. It looks to me like you just took credit for ruining it for the miners who were mining successfully under a more stressful mining environment. You also are probably single-handedly responsible for the upswing in PLEX prixes, by your own admission here. How does it feel to have gotten your profession a global nerf by the buffs you so greedily sought?

Hey look, systems responding to pressure...who would have guessed?!?

Don't ask complicated questions plz, they have already hard time rabbling the same old story again and again and again and again.
They solve nothing and learn nothing then cry because mechanics and stuff alike they exploited/abused at the highest degree get fixed, now they cry because gank mackinaws is unprofitable, yesterday because no one flies hulks, tomorow because another crappy argument and they will always cry no matter what you do or say.

Worthless thread from same worthless who were wrong before mining barges buff, still wrong now, and will still be wrong tomorrow but they will never learn, ever.
There's absolutely nothing you can do about it, it's wasted time and energy.

Did you forget that they nerfed nullsec individual income? It's not power creep if they reverse those nerfs.

oh lolz.

Even 100% of caldari ice is only equal to approx. 1/4 of ice available. I did say at a guess. Could be 50% for all the difference it made. It was a blip. The reaction however was far stronger. Bad luck Goons. Fail.

And did you mean the artifically induced speculative ice price or the aggregate market price which is governed by "normal" supply and demand? (There was a lot of futures trading on commodities wasn't there Goon?)

But meh, as long as you guys are convinced that killing a few Macks/Hulks has a real, tangible and sustained effect on the price of ore, well, you keep thinking that. atm, I see prices higher than they have been for a long, long time. If they drop, and they can go a LONG, LONG way, other market forces come into play and the REAL value will be achieved REGARDLESS of the blips you try to inject.

And NEVER forget the underlying RL demand (subs) - the reason for Eve's existence - needs to be maintained otherwise Eve's market and it's ability to manage itself is all for nought.

As long as that RL external force is in play, tinkering with how a game should change to manage a VR market, becomes an issue well outside the scope of Eve players themselves.

Any change in game mechanics in a VR world MUST be sympathetic to the demands within the RL world. This alone puts a normal VR economy outside "normal" market rules.

So Goon, *I* didn't cause anything. You did.

Funny you should say that. I took a cynnie from Jita to Rens yesterday and at the Uedama gate were 5 freighters AP'ing including an Anshar.

My first thoughts were "you bloody idiots".... "somebody should blow them up!!".

And sure as hell, I don't want freighter EHP buffed by CCP because of their stupidity, which may appear to be a direct counter to what I've been saying here.

But then I think that most freighter pilots are NOT new guys - particularly the Anshar pilot. They are not a majority so their whines will have little effect on subs if they all quit.

So I deduce, kill 'em all....

Anyone want to fleet me up?

You're not so bad after all, even if you make yourself out to be somewhat insane sometimes

I completely and emphatically deny "somewhat"...

So you're saying you want to activate modules on targets that won't shoot back and profit from it, but that gankers shouldn't be able to activate modules on targets that won't shoot back and do the same?

I have seen this reasoning before. You want to live the way you want to live, but you don't want others to be able to live that way, too.

[Edit]From your post, I bet you want a PVP queue at nullsec gates too. [/Edit]

By your logic, you also want people to play the game the way you think they should.

It seems I chose the wrong squad.