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EVE player feelings on Dust 514.

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Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#101 - 2012-10-05 01:04:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Gilbaron
Rellik B00n wrote:


on a more serious note im too old to learn how to shoot people with a console pad. Give me mouse and keyboard everyday. I represent my generation id say. The younger guys that can happily headshot you 2000 yards away with a ps3 pad......well these people LIKE modern warfare 2 and 3. They have no concept of a high quality shooter. They want a perk that fires a nuclear bomb killing eveyone on the map and a perk that helicoptors in a support team for them or DAMMIT they just wont play.

I found the game appealing but I would only play it on PC.


how about plugging your keyboard and mouse in your playstation to play dust ? kb/m support is already in the game, support is not perfect at this point, but dust514 is still in a very very beta state, currently missing a lot of the promised features.

I have written several hundred words about my experience in the dust beta so far.

but i decided to cut them and leave you with a few sentences

i have seen only two games in an equally unfinished state, minecraft and dayZ.

you all know how big minecraft is now, and how it got so extremely successful. it offers unique gameplay and a development team listening to the constructive part of the community.
and you all know the tremendous potential of dayZ in an engine not as terrible as Arma2 and with an actual development team behind it.

dust will be a big thing if CCP handles it correctly. it currently looks like that
Kinet
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#102 - 2012-10-05 01:57:56 UTC
Cerebral Wolf wrote:
Kinet wrote:
I

I am disappointed in the lack of interaction that DUST will have with EVE. It would be awesome if you could send in some DUST players to blow up a POS or have some real impact in PVP rather than just PI. Some ideas that are probably not going to make i



The lack of interaction is only based around what's been officially announced for launch, how do you know these features won't be put in at some point in the future? Why do you assume PI will be the only thing affected? That's just very closed minded in my opinion and seems to a pretty consistent theme among the posts in this thread, people are only concerned about EVE because its all they know, or they don't have a PS3 and feel that bashing CCP is the way to correct it. Not a very good number of people seem to be considering the possibilitys this could bring and are not looking at the big picture which is ironic considering EVE is all about the big picture unless you're all only interested in mining in your little belts and i hope that's not the case.

@ISD TYPE40: I would appreciate it if you didn't delete any rumors or speculation, it's kinda the whole point of the thread.



I just want to thank you for asking for my honest opinion and then telling me I'm closed minded because I only include what CCP has announced rather than what might come in a few years. Are you sure you are asking for opinions or are you tryng to tell us what our opinion should be?
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#103 - 2012-10-05 02:57:09 UTC
Bart Starr wrote:

I plan to provide plenty of negative fan reviews on gaming sites. And I don't even own a console.

So in short you are an admitted ignorant liar and don't care? You would rather slander a product out of deliberate ignorance simply because you can?

I don't understand the rational people like you work with. It doesn't make any sense at all that you would care so much about something you hate to slander it without ever even trying it...

Anyway...illogical hatred aside...I have my problems with the game but mostly because its in beta. DUST is unique in gameplay and has several new ideas being brought to the table that have never been done before. I have a sinking feeling that it will not succeed but I honestly hope it does. There are a few things I wish it did but nothing that will break the game. I wish it were on PC but understand why it isn't. I want to see it succeed and grow EVE to a new level.

Tolerance, education and understanding for the win.

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Cerebral Wolf
N.A.G.A Too
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#104 - 2012-10-05 10:55:55 UTC
Kinet wrote:
Cerebral Wolf wrote:
Kinet wrote:
I

I am disappointed in the lack of interaction that DUST will have with EVE. It would be awesome if you could send in some DUST players to blow up a POS or have some real impact in PVP rather than just PI. Some ideas that are probably not going to make i



The lack of interaction is only based around what's been officially announced for launch, how do you know these features won't be put in at some point in the future? Why do you assume PI will be the only thing affected? That's just very closed minded in my opinion and seems to a pretty consistent theme among the posts in this thread, people are only concerned about EVE because its all they know, or they don't have a PS3 and feel that bashing CCP is the way to correct it. Not a very good number of people seem to be considering the possibilitys this could bring and are not looking at the big picture which is ironic considering EVE is all about the big picture unless you're all only interested in mining in your little belts and i hope that's not the case.

@ISD TYPE40: I would appreciate it if you didn't delete any rumors or speculation, it's kinda the whole point of the thread.



I just want to thank you for asking for my honest opinion and then telling me I'm closed minded because I only include what CCP has announced rather than what might come in a few years. Are you sure you are asking for opinions or are you tryng to tell us what our opinion should be?



I'm trying to spark an actual discussion and get more peoples well thought out answers rather than single line "hurr its not on PC" replys.
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#105 - 2012-10-05 11:47:40 UTC
Although I am not a typical console player, I would be curious about playing Dust. I can easily afford another console on a whim. That is not the obstacle. However, as a tech person I feel very uncomfortable with Sony. There was no other corp which betrayed its customers on such scale like Sony did with its rootkit. Ever since, I have avoided products from Sony.

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Jenna MarieIV
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#106 - 2012-10-05 12:01:52 UTC
Hmm. Well, I'm interested in dust. I don't own a console, haven't in more than a decade... but I could get one any time I felt like it. I've thought about it, would want to see more of the game before I dropped the money though. It sounds like it has a lot of potential. Honestly though, I don't get why they don't have a PC version in addition to the ps3 version. That seems totally bizarre to me. Now when I feel in the mood for some mmofpsing I go play planetside 2 when I could have played dust. The ps3 exclusive is a bad idea with no logic that could stand up to an attack. The "lose eve players to dust" argument is obviously wrong. Different games scratch different itches. What they are losing is more than a few potential dust players on PC to planetside 2. Its just wrong minded I boggle trying to think of the reason for this.

That said, I like the idea of the ground and space stuff potentially interacting. If/when the ground stuff becomes more integrated into the overall universe I can't help but thinking that sounds damn cool. I wonder if someday they'll even have cross platform corps. It'd be neat to have a party of marines on hand, if I had something to so do with them.

So yeah, we'll see.
Dasola
New Edens Freeports
#107 - 2012-10-05 12:05:42 UTC
Bring my slave... Soldiers forward so i may send them to die.... Win glorious battles on my behalf.

My Dustbunnies, go and win, crush opposing force and nialite their families. if you shall fail me, my punishment to you is fierce. Go now and worship your god in heavens...

We are Minmatar, Our ship are made of scraps, but look what our scraps can do...
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#108 - 2012-10-05 13:12:26 UTC
Dasola wrote:
Bring my slave... Soldiers forward so i may send them to die.... Win glorious battles on my behalf.

My Dustbunnies, go and win, crush opposing force and nialite their families. if you shall fail me, my punishment to you is fierce. Go now and worship your god in heavens...


Dustmites...get it right...they are insects.

Sheesh...Dustbunnies... Roll

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Viktor Fel
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#109 - 2012-10-05 14:33:34 UTC
Lets see, Dust...interesting concept and all but the cancer of SOE looms over everything like a black cloud of epic fail. So no, not interested in Dust. SOE has ZERO credibility as a company to me so I avoid their cancerous corporate policies and inept management at all costs.

Who is Viktor Fel?

Killboard
F'elch
Wall Street Trading
#110 - 2012-10-05 15:21:10 UTC
OP, are you trying to get traffic to mittani.com or generate interest in Dust? Somehow I don't believe you are actually interested in this subject yourself.
Cerebral Wolf
N.A.G.A Too
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#111 - 2012-10-05 15:42:44 UTC
F'elch wrote:
OP, are you trying to get traffic to mittani.com or generate interest in Dust? Somehow I don't believe you are actually interested in this subject yourself.



I love Dust, i play it every day for at least a couple of hours, my main focus is to generate interest in Dust, there's actually very little interest from Goons other than a small group of us and i want to try and generate a bit of a buzz by providing some news bits here and there and using TM.com as a platform for that is the easiest way open to me right now.

As far as people talking about it being a PS3 exclusive and talking about PS2, has anyone considered that Sony forced CCP into making it console exclusive?..

Think about this, Sony don't want MS to get Dust based on the fact that it could actually work and be something amazing, Sony agrees to make the changes to their online infrastructure to allow Dust to work on the condition that Dust is made PS3 exclusive.

Why do Sony it as an exclusive? It's good for bragging about as its an exclusive, but most importantly, it keeps Dust OFF the PC for awhile so Sony can release Plantside 2 without any competition from Dust as they are both FPSMMO games and a lot of EVE players are playing Planetside 2, if Dust was being beta tested on the PC where would they all be? Testing Dust not Planetside.
Cerebral Wolf
N.A.G.A Too
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#112 - 2012-10-05 15:43:28 UTC
Viktor Fel wrote:
Lets see, Dust...interesting concept and all but the cancer of SOE looms over everything like a black cloud of epic fail. So no, not interested in Dust. SOE has ZERO credibility as a company to me so I avoid their cancerous corporate policies and inept management at all costs.


Dust has nothing to do with SOE other than being based on the Playstation platform wise.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#113 - 2012-10-05 15:55:04 UTC
It should be noted, Planetside 2 is PC only.

So it's not in direct competition with Dust 514.

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Cerebral Wolf
N.A.G.A Too
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#114 - 2012-10-05 15:56:34 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
It should be noted, Planetside 2 is PC only.

So it's not in direct competition with Dust 514.



It would be if Sony had not made Dust an PS3 exclusive. CCP would have released Dust on the PC as well and they would be in direct competition.
Random McNally
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#115 - 2012-10-05 15:59:39 UTC
Another member of the "Do not own a PS3" crew checking in.

While Dust has no particular interest for me, I will say that I'm curious what will happen as it has a chance to grow and thrive.

My main concern is that IF Dust fails, that it doesn't pull my beloved spaceship game down with it.....

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Minmatar Fleet Associates
#116 - 2012-10-05 16:02:23 UTC
Dust is the entire reason i picked up eve dont have a ps 3 or any skill or interest in FPS's but if i can help out my friends who do it will be epic.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#117 - 2012-10-05 16:09:40 UTC
The amount of butt hurt from EVE players about DUST is crazy. And all because it's on PS3 not PC.

DUST stands in enhance our eve experience by giving Alliances new ways to screw with each other (i can see alliances throwing isk at dustbunnines trying to get that IHUB timer juuustt rriigghhhhtt), potentially brings more people to EVE (isn't this something that some GD posters cry about?) and potentially gives CCP new revenue that will let them go to the next level as a game company.

It may even allow the average EVE player to become the space overlord the game lore always tells use we are , and perhaps without having to wardec someone ("hey,that guy just griefed me, well, Ill use my mission running isk and hire some plausible dependability dust bunnies to **** up his PI operation")

But but, I can't play it on PC, so it's bad....

Brilliant.
Idris Helion
Doomheim
#118 - 2012-10-05 16:12:43 UTC
I'm just going to have to reserve judgement until the game is actually released and I can see the full feature-set. I'm not that crazy about FPS's in general (though I do enjoy Borderlands 2), but there are some interesting possibilities if DUST turns into a success.

Can I make money ferrying DUST-bunnies from one planet to another? (Troopship?) Can I get a contract from the mercenary corp to drop supplies to their bases? Are DUST weapons and vehicles buildable in EVE via BPO's? Will my PI facilities now suddenly become vulnerable to DUST merc assault?

Lots of questions, not many answers just yet. The gameplay snippets I've seen so far point to DUST itself being basically another me-too shooter, so it's the linkage with EVE that carries all the potential. If CCP can't make that linkage work for them, DUST is going to have a shelf-life measured in weeks. Console gamers have tons of other FPS's to play, so even a free-to-play game like DUST is going to have to offer something unique to pull them in and keep them there. (A persistent single-shard world is a big selling point, IMO, but CCP isn't playing this up much in their advertising as far as I can tell.)
ISD Athechu
ISD STAR
ISD Alliance
#119 - 2012-10-05 17:28:00 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Athechu
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Cerebral Wolf
N.A.G.A Too
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#120 - 2012-10-05 19:29:21 UTC
ISD Athechu wrote:
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Arguments and the like would actually really help get to the root of the issues you know? heh