Market Discussions

scam is scam your terribad idea reeks of scam

your right not pyramid a scheme you promise your scam bros palyers for the games they run and calim this is a "scam" free room for righteous traders and liegit businessmen


again if your too lazy too look your self ya know over in the inter webs your on so much for info why should i give anything out research is the number 1 key to finding stuffz try it

"You have to be brilliantly incompetent to think this sort of scheme would even work. Ok so I get a bunch of people in my chatroom, and then make them all join my lottery, and then run away with the money? First off you're assuming I can make anyone do anything. Secondly, you're assuming I can make anyone do anything twice. Thirdly, you're short shortsightedness is impeding you from seeing the larger profit being made from networking rather than just getting a couple billions (best scenario) out of some overly complicated, daft concept of a scam you have formulated.

My intention was to have competent people working together for a business model where they could punch above their weight class. Not to accidently open a space soup kitchen for conspiracy hobos to spout psuedo intellectual dribble. I'm sorry if I gave you the wrong impression."

never said you can make them join your lottery for starters but they will spammed by the a$$ tarts that run these "legit" operations cause ya know in most local channles tehy spam this crap to death

and if your intention is too have a solid backbone of industry to serve the eve communities as they are seperate entites in thier own right not to mention the people you are looking for have generally figured out how to do this and do not need to pay a fee to sit around play pretend space moguls as they already are

try looking for bulk trade channels and the such at work right now so cant pull the names off the top of my head, but ya know with a little searching im sure you can find them and this is EVE wtf is not a scam of some sort


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2 secs googling i found this
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=38453

now jump off your pony your majesty and look for shitz on your own ffs

So a question from another angle. Given the fee, I'm looking at investing 1.2 bil a year, what exactly are you doing to justify that fee. I mean other than clicking create channel and allow user?

Well I wouldn't want anyone to pay a whole year's worth. That's too much to ask for this. It's all together possible that nothing really comes of it which is why I want to have this trial period where everything is free. Now to the point of your question, what would you be paying for? Networking, moderation of a mature atmosphere.

Not to be snobbish or elitist but I do prefer a certain level of intellectual comprehension with the people I interact with. People can poke fun at that all they want but I don't really care. I know who I want to work with. And that is the sort of atmosphere I am seeking to build.

Say we were to get a group of 8 to 14 members there by December. We'd have our own priorities within our corp, but any time we would need help or some sort of "insider deal", we have this group we can fall back on and trust. Grow large enough and you gain stronger influence over various regions. Some of us are rich enough to influence whole regions. Get a group of people like that and you can do quite a lot. We can work together to achieve goals greater than our sum individually. What you do with your gain is for you. Maybe you're toon is an alt for a major sov holding bloc and you need poses, or maybe you are just a loner w-space industrialists looking for a trust worthy market. That's up to you. We're not bound by one set of standards, what we're bound by is our self interests and profits that help us all benefit and grow. Politics is no longer a boundary.



Listen, I don't have time for this. You can't spout daft nonsense and then complain when someone calls you out on the stupid crap you say. In any case you're a non-factor and there's nothing of an argument that you have left to make. If anyone else has questions, i'll be more than happy to answer. But this little petty and sadly unchallanging back and forth has lost its luster.

I have my own contribution to make. I can pretty much provide almost anything that can be built. I can provide various free BPCs and lower than jita prices on certain items. I also want to provide a mediator role between various parties. The unique aspect in all this is that we're working across political boundaries. Usually you may work within your immediate group in your specific region. But in this manner you are building ties that reach much further than that.

I also didn't say that this would be scam proof but we would take whatever precautions we can take. As for vet applicants, that's a good idea. What sort of system would you work in that wouldn't be overly complicated?

How would I enhance the networking experience with the monthly fee, well there's always protection that can be used with that money. On top of that, even though you may only have 10 or so guys in channel at the start, if one corp gets attacked, we could bring 9 other corps to help defend one another. The fact that we're separate yet unified gives us mobility and options.

If you have ideas, we could work together.

I will be forming "The Slik Road", with a membership fee of 98m isk. As all real capitalists recognize that competition keeps prices low, you can be assured the economical ones will be saving 1-2 mil and be in The Slik Road rather than The Salk Road or The Silk Road.

I will be forming "The Bilk Road", with a membership fee of 97m isk. As all real capitalists recognize that competition keeps prices low, you can be assured the economical ones will be saving 1-3 mil and be in The Bilk Road rather than The Slik Road, The Salk Road or The Silk Road.

Ah yeah that makes a lot more sense, the one I was thinking of was the anonymous drug listing website. It's confirmed my mind is in the gutter...

I want to scale the price with the service being offered.

You've completely failed to address the main concern, which is "What does this channel provide that other (non-charging) avenues do not?". You charge a membership fee, but are not pre-vetting to determine if the user in question is a likely scammer (legit trade does so, albeit rather ham-handedly, banning my whole alliance for example despite my activities in the channel having always been legitimate). You claim to offer "connections", but such an environment does not appear to foster any beneficial connections. You've got effectively no real value-add that I can see.

tl;dr You need to know what the product is that you're selling before you show it off to the customers.

Scams come and go, the same as the scamers.

This is EvE, we invented scamming, reinvented it and every one comes here thinking they have something new to bring.

Im sorry for being so tough on you, but this is what your doing, you are trying to scam newish pilots out of their ISK.