Player Features and Ideas Discussion

There is one, it's called a "cyno jammer" and is anchored at a POS. This requires SOV.

[There are tons of alternatives to how to deal with this.

1) cynojammer at a POS; requires SOV
2) Instacanes to pop cynoship
3) More capitals to escalate further.
4) subcapitals to kill dictors to and allow you to extract the capitals before too heavy losses occur

Or, if you've ****** up and don't have any of the aforementioned steps (or they all fail), there's always:

5) Die in a fire.

Capitals are things you don't throw around willy-nilly, and when you do they need to be properly protected. If they aren't, you deserve to lose them. Hope this helps.[/quote]


Ofcourse when you are in a corp/alliance with 1000's of members and 100's of capitals you say stuff like this. In nullsec I can see your point as its null sec with the SOV and ect....,but for lowsec there should but an anti-hotdrop mod for the little corps with just a few capitals. With the current way of things its its too big of a risk for smaller corps/alliances getting hotdrop by the giant corps like your own to even field a capital. There could be a small cap battle between 2 small corps and a huge alliance hotdrop and kill everything just because they have the numbers. Your way of thinking is the big boys stay big and the lil boys stay little. If all the lil boys get discouraged and decide that its not even worth playing eve where does that leave the big boys. Point is if the big alliances control everything what the hell are you going to do? You have all the caps all the sov and noone to fight.

So you sit on a high sec gate and wait for easy targets and as soon as you spot a gang of the same size of your own fleet most people like you will just hide and vanish.

But when someone outsmarts you by sneaking in a tackler without scaring away your little gate camp you go to the forums and ask for a mechanism to reduce your risk to get killed yourself.... the irony is strong in this one.

1. I dont sit on a high sec gate and waiting for ganks.
2. If you read the whole Thread ... maybe then you can understand it better and not repeating already sayed stuff.
3. There is no "smart" in sending out tons of neutral baits and dropping all day victims by outnumbering them > 10:1 (and no i dont mean a Gatecamp)

there is no "smart" in many aspects of the game, doesnt mean they need to be changed.

pop cyno 20km off, everyone (including a dictor) jumps through, hotdropped gang ***** a brick, dictor moves a few kilometers and drops a bubble, everyone gets raped. justitia mckingston demands the range be increased to 50km because it's obviously still "too easy".

And then they cyno in a bunch of tier 3's, blap a ton of ships in the hotdrop confusion, and justitia mckingston wants the cyno disruption moved out to 100km.

you wont get it anyways, so stop posting finally.

You've never been up against a proper fleet of tier 3s, have you? You've completely forgotten the sense of panic you get when your overview unexpectedly light up with hostiles?


20km: no difference at all.
50km: tier 3s to snipe the more valuable ships, or if we're talking about capitals, bring in dreads at 50 would still **** face.
100km: cyno in tier 3s or capitals at 150+, warp in to optimals. still snipe expensive ships. vOv

If you get into panic, then nothing will help you. Maybe Concord if you are in secure High and you are lucky.




Sniping ships is a normal Tactic.
But if they cant point you before they light up the Cyno you can warp away and come at a better Distance (closer maybe) back. And the best is, that you can use the Cyno as a Warpin and sniping Ships have a real Problem at close range.




Enough time to react properly. If you cant React in that 1 Minute you get .. then nothing else could help you.


I dont want a module completley preventing hotrops. Just a module to make it more a tactic than a Killfarming.

The PL Capital fisching fleet for example contains ~20 Ms + ~20 Carriers. They send in a single Cynoship on 1-5 Caps. Jump on it. Destoy everything within 2-3 Volleys and jump out.
You have no chance to react. Absolutley no.

@Robert Caldera: Then stop reading or be constuctive.

In other words, you've completely forgotten the sense of panic you get when your overview unexpectedly lights up with reds. It'll happen unless you expect it, it'll slow down your responses, and it will get people killed. It'll also stop them from doing a lot of things that needs to be done to actually survive.


1) Initial state of panic means nothing productive gets done the first 10+ seconds
2) people try to warp every which way, but take too long because they're not aligned and they're trying to do it while in a panic
3) the tier 3s snipe the most expensive ships
4) the tier 3s moonwalk out of the system without a single loss (except the cynoship, probably,. boo hoo.)

Also, hotdropping is also a "normal tactic".


It doesn't take "1 minute" to get into optimals. People would still die. People would still whine.

And the act of capital ships having their own cynos in case of emergency would also be completely worthless, since the hotdroppers would just be jamming themselves, which means that they'd have even less risk. Yay.


You don't want a module to completely prevent hotdrops, yet you want to try to make it either so unwieldy to do (ref: move it further and further out, until the problem solves itself), or require so much coordination that it doesn't happen. I've seen this tactic before, in the buffing of mining barges and, now, crimewatch 2.0 nerfing ganking.

I've a counterproposal: harden the **** up. Hotdrops are fine, they have counters and counter-counters. Use them.