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Looking to start again, and setup a PvP/E character.
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Jack Delament
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-10-03 16:09:40 UTC
Hey everyone,
I'm a returning player looking to create a new character and start playing as more of a fighter.

I was wondering what ships are good for that sort of thing? Is there a race that have good ships for both PvP and mission running, or will I have to spread myself across different skills?
Also things like, missiles or pew-pew-lasers?

Thanks,
- Jack
Vilnius Zar
SDC Multi Ten
#2 - 2012-10-03 16:14:28 UTC
Bit difficult to say atm, Minmatar has been the go to race for solo/small gang combat for a long time now but with the rebalancing happening it all looks interesting tbh. All have their own "feel" and overarching strategy but it seems as if CCP is finally catching on to the fact that rather than having one race overpowered it's better to have all 4 be viable.

In short, choose whatever you look for whatever reason you find important, they are (or will be after rebalancing) all viable in their own right. Note that for pve it's a bit more straight forward due to the obvious damage types they all work fine apart from perhaps Amarr which is kinda forced into Amarr space only.
Jack Delament
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-10-03 16:59:44 UTC
Is this case even with missiles or lasers? Meaning they're both viable for solo and group player battles?
Marcus Gideon
Triglavian Assembly
#4 - 2012-10-03 17:23:17 UTC
Umm... why make a new character?

You know you can train more than just 1 career, right?

Your dedicated miner could also learn to use guns and stuff =)


Each race has pros and cons, both for missions and PvP. And since you don't have to be a certain race, to fly that race's ships... again, just retrain the toon you've got.
Lord Ryan
True Xero
#5 - 2012-10-03 17:34:25 UTC
Marcus Gideon wrote:
Umm... why make a new character?

You know you can train more than just 1 career, right?

Your dedicated miner could also learn to use guns and stuff =)


Each race has pros and cons, both for missions and PvP. And since you don't have to be a certain race, to fly that race's ships... again, just retrain the toon you've got.

But buy one of those resuplts. There's your real issue.

Do not assume anything above this line was typed by me. Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient.
Marcus Gideon
Triglavian Assembly
#6 - 2012-10-03 19:16:19 UTC
Lord Ryan wrote:
Marcus Gideon wrote:
Umm... why make a new character?

You know you can train more than just 1 career, right?

Your dedicated miner could also learn to use guns and stuff =)


Each race has pros and cons, both for missions and PvP. And since you don't have to be a certain race, to fly that race's ships... again, just retrain the toon you've got.

But buy one of those resuplts. There's your real issue.

What?

I cringe at the notion of "rolling a new character" in Eve.

Other games, sure... you can make "alts".

In Eve, it takes ages before a character is trained in basic skills. Before you get a couple months of core skills under your belt, you suck at life.

Don't get me wrong, a day old toon can sit in a frig and shoot guns. But their tracking will stink, their tank will stink, and in general... they're fodder.

Whereas, you could take the character you already have, and train some extra combat skills.

In the event someone were trying to make an evil PvP pirate alt they don't want associated with their otherwise spotless reputation... might be better off buying a premade toon =)

Since the OP mentions PvE as well, I don't think its a matter of reputation.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#7 - 2012-10-03 20:31:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Liang Nuren
I'd train directly for the Manticore for FW missions and the Condor for PVP. The Manticore can also be used for PVP, but it's a lot more expensive.

-Liang

Ed: Also, to all the people questioning why you'd roll a new character: because of clone costs. FFS, losing my clone (no implants) costs me more than a fitted ship.

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-10-04 04:22:42 UTC
Just pick any race and make it work.
Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#9 - 2012-10-05 00:46:03 UTC
It is quicker to get an indy pilot shooting than starting a new toon, you will already have many of the support skills trained. If you do start a new toon, the cerebral implant is handy.. gives you a plus 3 to all learning, then plug in some plus 4 learning implants and you running at plus 7 learning. If you plan you mappings right at the end of 30days you will have very capable toon.
Erehwon Rorschach
LoGisTicAl ERr0R
#10 - 2012-10-05 12:37:38 UTC
Jack, join in-game channel Air Logistics

If you're looking for a corp or just some friendly advice the guys will be more than willing to help you out with stuff.

Because your mum just couldn't say no.
KamiCrazy
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-10-05 23:41:50 UTC
Winmatar has everything you need.

Shield nano faggotry
Armor tanking
Drones
Alphafleets
Brawling
Fast ships
Utility neut highs
Skurja Volpar
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#12 - 2012-10-06 13:20:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Skurja Volpar
I'd say maybe concentrate on turrets first, as they will be transferable to most other race's ships, while missile skills will limit your choices much more. Unless your really into caldari ships.