Intergalactic Summit

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EVE gate collapsed destroying everything in the wake. The gate sent waves of antigravitons while sealing. Those that survived were either outlanders or shifted into another plane of existence. Anything with warp drive capabilities moved to permanent subspace. To compile matters even the most rudimentary outposts were within range of subspace engines.

As gravity wells of mass occupying the eve cluster synchronize the subspace regions tie to time on this plane. This explains our current problem of worm hole activity with no changes in planetary alignments or solar wind. The quest for knowledge and space travel began anew.

The instincts of the originally spiritual Amarr crave to distort their own image of man. That is why they sought to enslave the Minmatar. They are the race that most counters the features of an Amarr. The religion of the Amarr society formed around this concept. The more their structures in life of servitude to God solidified so did their need to corrupt his image.

The Amarr faith was millenia old LONG before Amarr met their first Matari.

Also, you're claiming that God was made in the image of man, when clearly it is the other way around. It should be Deuspomorphism, if anything.

Really, man, where were you raised?

First of all the Amarrians are STILL spiritual. The Empire is, after all, the only civilisation with a single, unified, belief system that boasts a single godhead.

The rest of it has a laughably low signal to noise ratio.

Everybody knows why the Amarr enslaved the Minmatar. The Faith tells us that we should use any and all means necessary to bring the Fallen to know and respect the Will of God. There have been many methods tried over the millenia, but one of the more successful ones has been through conquest, enslavement , spiritual realignment and then release.

Somebody looked at the barely space-worthy Matari civililsation and decided that conquest would work adequately well so as to preclude more drawn out methods. That is the reason. It's the same reasoning that drove the conquest of the Udorians and the Ealur. It's the same reasoning that chose non-martial or nearly non-martial methods to integrate the Khanid and the Ni-Kunni.

There was no 'special reasoning' applied to the Matari question. There were no special techniques or tactics. I daresay the Empire STILL hasn't worked out what went so very wrong in this one case. Was it the Jovians? The Gallente intervention? Was it something fundamental to the nature of the Minmatar people themselves? I just don't know, the waters are so muddied by the fast pace of events between the massacre at Vak'Aktioth and the Rebellion.

So what this nonsense about "instincts that crave to distort the image of man" or the Minmatar being "the race that most counters the features of an Amarr" or the idea that a well-codified and centralised religious Faith being embraced whole-heartedly in all aspects of daily life leading to "a need to corrupt His image" has to do with anything is well beyond my comprehension.

What's need is not more study, but more explanation, if not more SENSE.

I'm going to agree with Amaki Mai here. To say that a Theocracy that existed for millenea before it encountered the Minmatar people was shaped around enslaving it proves that you have not studied your subject matter. The enslavement of the Minmatar is a very recent event in New Eden history, and if our culture and history was shaped in any way by the Minmatar it would have been much later in time by the tremors caused AFTER the Minmatar Rebellion. Perhaps some basic research is in order before publishing your theories?

I suggest that you start reading up on the historical timeline for New Eden:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Timeline

The process in which the Amarr patriots were geared toward slaving was a deliberate adaptation by Amarr priests. As citizens grew aware of the power the government was gaining over their lives through the churches influence over the Empire they began to feel like slaves themselves. Recognising this emotion among its populous the religious leaders chose to embrace slavery rather than attempt to curb their appetites for more power. Anyone not of the Amarr faith became a target. The Minmatar in particular because they looked so different and subjects of the Amarr were subconsciously distorting their image of worship the whole while their rites as citizens were being taken from them.

Mr. Ephesianos you do not know anything about history as Ms. Mai has stated and disproved you with multiple times. Until you can come up with a credible argument, do us all a favor and just stop.

If you're capable of greater clarity than he is, perhaps you could precis this supposedly wonderful hypothesis? I have already addressed the only psychological 'insight' that I detected.

Regarding the rest of your post, certainly I know of several former slaves who now own slaves. One could argue that, with their perspective, they might make superior Holders. Fortunately the Empire actually has a mechanism by which Slaves can rise up in society, even if it does take quite awhile to happen.

Whereas Caldari are promoted solely on their divergence from Corporate policy? Matari are raised up to the status of Elders in their tribes for breaking all the tribal strictures?

Guess what? Societies have rules and they generally try to reward those who follow them and punish those that break them. The only tricky part of this is that some of those rules are publicly stated and some of them are admitted to only in private.

That is where we disagree. That sort of social behavior is why we fly starships and live in giant floating cities as opposed to mud huts.

Oh good! Opressive! Glad you're not using terms with fungible definitions.