Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This post is just expressing concerns on how fragile hauling ships really are and how easy it is to gank them in high sec.

Yes im winging about highsec gankers who isnt thought id give it a go =)

Hauling ships designed to get stuff from point A to point B simple right? well there are various types of hauling ships which is awesome, some giving mobility and sneakyness and others giving more precious cargo space. My point is the general idea is A > B shouldnt be so riskfull if low/high/war targets are not involved, The price for frieghters and jump frieghters should give you more for what your actually paying for.

frieghters T1 and T2 should be allowed to have some modules fitted to them, without going into technical stuff (by looking at my spelling you will probably allready know im not that smart) maybe resrict cargo expanders to be fitted incase it adds way too much cargo space but just to allow some kind of tank/EHP boost. They cant be used to any tactical advantage still just an added buffer I dont think its too much to ask for considering the cost of them

I was also wondering if implants that improve cargo space could be added?

This has probably been mention in previous posts but meh thought id give it a go

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While I'm ok with most of your suggestion, I would not give freighters/JF's any highslots... (i.e. no cloaks, no cynos), and I really don't see the need for midslots either. Have you ever put an MWD on a Archon? You get an 80% to speed, not the 500% boost you are hoping for!

First off, if you give it a highslot, then it should be user selectable... be it a cloak, a cyno, a neut, a smartbomb, or whatever the fancy....

I personally think that giving them a cloak is too much. I've caught several freighters in nullsec that would have been much, much more difficult to catch had they bothered to fit a cloak. I think the cloak offers too much protection for these ships (and it is useable in highsec too, as if they fear a gank, they can cloak and suicide a ship to bring concord on grid. )

Usually I scoff at ideas like this one. But the idea of a freighter having module slots makes me a little bit excited.

Even if they did give them highslots restrictions are put ther for certain reasons but tbh i cant see much point in putting high slots ther seeing as you cant access the cargo outside of station/POS and cloaking? lmao now if you see that decloak after jumping you gotta be pretty bad to not decloak lol (also cyno? hmm expensive cyno , or perma cyno?)

Jokes aside no i dont think high slots should be given but some low and med slots to be opened to fit some kind of tank buff / EHP boost

Considering the price for both type of freighters i cant see any problem by giving those fitting slots providing cargo expanders/rigs are dealt with so they cant fit a titan in

If a freighter gets tackled wether it be in war or lowsec/null its gonna pretty much die even if it has fitting slots available, but those fitting slots stop or atleast make it incredibly difficult for gankers and give it atleast a chance to be saved by rage typing in corp/allaince or others chats lol (depending on how many have grabbed it )

You missed my post about the slots completely. What I said was they would need to adjust base hauling capacity so that a full low slot of cargo expanders plus t1 rigs would get the exact same hauling capacity as the current freighter. This gives the player choice to withdraw hauling capacity for either tank or speed.

For mid slots, you don't have to worry about mega tanks. Why? because like all haulers fitting room will be extremely limited i'm sure.

So back to my point. Why not give people choice instead of having a ship that is what it is. Every other ship in the game has choice.

Why not just make it impossible to get a lock on any non-war target within 10 km of a high sec gate?

I mean lets face it,the current system is broken anyway.EVE is said to be a game where the choices you make have an impact on your character,how other people perceive you. and on what options become either available or unavailable as you progress through the game,much like real life in some way.

The problem though,and where the current system is broken,is that in EVE you can have multiple characters while in life you have.. just 1 life.You see if everyone could have only ONE character in the game, sure some people would make at some point the decision of ganking other players in High sec but then they would be tagged criminals and this activity would become unavailable to them,thus making this practice MUCH LESS popular,but since you can have multiple characters there is basically no repercussions for being a criminal,and it then becomes a verry popular and lucrative activity.. born out of a broken system.

this activity goes the opposite direction of what CCP wants their game to be... they always publicize it as a "live with your choices" game.. yet at some point when you play it you get blown up by a bunch hi sec clowns and realize that they don't have to live with their choices at all.

Absolutely true, though I'm sure we could find some ways to fix that issue.



Yeah right, then you make another gank alt and voila! good sec status and no kill rights ! and I hope you are kidding when you say losing their ship is a penalty, they make much more than they lose...



Again,very true.So a hauler as to live with his choices but a high sec pirate don't ?

Ewwww Dori Tos your really trying to take this off of the original topic posted. Please don't, your idea is terrible and it takes away from what is a much more interesting fix to freighters.

I'm not anti pvp or anti gank, in fact I'm for both of those. I believe gankers are important to this game. If you act like an idiot you should be ganked. I simply think freighters are broken because they don't provide pilots with any fitting trade-offs.

Safe highsec is not how you fix this game. Giving people reasonable choices, is the way to fix it.