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Official Protest - Mittani should be removed from CSM - *** UPDATED RESPONSE POSTED ***

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Just Another Toon
Doomheim
#541 - 2011-10-17 13:35:59 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Just Another Toon wrote:
oh dear..You keep digging that grave...
Well sure — it needs to be quite deep to fit you inside, seeing as how you can't even answer these simple questions:

How is the CSM corrupt?
Where's the abuse?
How is it connected to their “positions of trust”?


The questions have been answered, perhaps you find it difficult to read. over 400 personal likes and 50+topic likes, still says alot of people agree with me, Like it or not tippia..

Anyway i really cant answer any more your posts, i know you probably stamping your feet like a 2 year old, but its time you went back in your play pen
Elise DarkStar
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#542 - 2011-10-17 13:37:12 UTC
It's a good thing Mittani is blasting miners and scamming suckers because there is obviously a worrying number of people playing this game under substantial misconceptions.

Obviously this kind of issue awareness needs to be brought up more often so these pustules of absolute cluelessness don't grow to be so big in the future before being popped and having their ignorance ooze all over the forums.

If Eve is having this supposed existential crisis atm with nex and a stagnant nullsec etc, let's add an obvious failure to inform and acclimatize newer players to the actual nature of Eve as a game.
Danks
Fat Angry Toe Tappin Inbreds
#543 - 2011-10-17 13:37:31 UTC
Just Another Toon wrote:
Two step wrote:
WhyTry1 wrote:

Quote:

CSM6 can be trusted to do its job as the CSM and our track record so far basically proves this. If you want more beyond this role then you're asking for something we're not obliged to provide.


How can you be trusted to do your CSM Job? If you are scamming people.
Look at this way..

If you scam someone ingame, you are the looked upon as an untrustworthy person. They will see you personally as a person not to be trusted. Correct? So how can you expect people to trust you anymore whether its in or out of game. Your reputation to that person you scammed is ruined. They cant trust you and never will.

If your government pillaged your home, killed all your family, took all your goods and lifes work, would you then trust them to run the country? I think not


Again, you still aren't getting it. As a leader of my corporation, I have invaded the home wormholes of people that voted for me, blew up all their POSes and ships, and stole the mods that dropped. This is just fine, and those people still talk to me about CSM stuff. What you need to learn to do is separate CSM duties from playing the game. We still get to play the game, any way we want to. If you don't like that, I don't give a ****.



oh dear..You keep digging that grave...


What grave? Based on that reply I would vote for that person.
Vaffel Junior
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#544 - 2011-10-17 13:38:50 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Just Another Toon wrote:
oh dear..You keep digging that grave...
Well sure — it needs to be quite deep to fit you inside, seeing as how you can't even answer these simple questions:

How is the CSM corrupt?
Where's the abuse?
How is it connected to their “positions of trust”?


How do you come up with all those questions ?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#545 - 2011-10-17 13:38:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Just Another Toon wrote:
The questions have been answered
Good. Then it will be easy for you to copy-paste the answers (or just the links to the relevant posts) right here.

So:
How is the CSM corrupt?
Where's the abuse?
How is it connected to their “positions of trust”?
Quote:
over 400 personal likes and 50+topic likes
…in other words, a very small minority (especially once you remove that 5-person band following you around).
Vaffel Junior wrote:
How do you come up with all those questions ?
Oh, I've collected them over the course of the thread as JAT has either been given direct questions that he has not been able to answer, or has made out-of-the-blue assertions without any kind of support or reasoning behind them.

In fact, since there's only three of them, he's been a pretty good boy when it comes to avoiding inventing even more nonsense or trying to use diversions to evade the issue (which usually only results in additional unsupported claims that get added to the list). He's been consistent and focused in what he has said… and, unfortunately, just as consistent in not providing any support for those repeated claims. I'd probably put it down to some “say it often enough and it becomes true” kind of wishful thinking.
non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
#546 - 2011-10-17 13:39:54 UTC
The police will have to make lots of room available for all the murderers. I've seen a lot of killing in this game. I'm pretty sure most of them are likely to do the same thing out of game.
Mr LaForge
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#547 - 2011-10-17 13:41:05 UTC
Someone was a miner and got blown up....and started an epic troll whine thread. Good show sir. I like the tears.

On a related note, if Mitanni scams and burns. I don't care. I have fun watching it. Its a game. His CSM duties are unrelated the what he can or can not do ingame as long as he doesn't break NDA. So far CSM has done what they said they would and for that Good job.


Stuff Goes here

Vaffel Junior
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#548 - 2011-10-17 13:42:51 UTC
non judgement wrote:
The police will have to make lots of room available for all the murderers. I've seen a lot of killing in this game. I'm pretty sure most of them are likely to do the same thing out of game.


I hope not Shocked
Nyio
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#549 - 2011-10-17 13:42:52 UTC
Later that evening The Mittani checks his voice messages:

"Very good job on the forums my young apprentice! We have the crowd completely diverted from the critical issues now, and HE will be very pleased to hear this."
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#550 - 2011-10-17 13:44:21 UTC
VaMei wrote:
WhyTry1 wrote:
Are you really stupid! If a person is character, they are still that person in real life scamming. Are you mad?
Go away jeez now your making me mad never mind the other people...get out, get out now...im going to get a coffee to calm down..


This in an MMORPG.
The player is free to RP a character with moral defects that will do things in game the player would never consider IRL.

VaMei generally follows my RL ethics. He's never attacked anyone that did not start the fight, and has never taken a dishonet isk from anyone in his 6 years of Eve. Some of my other characters are not so... scrupulous, but their personality does not reflect what anyone would ever see from me IRL.



In fact most EVE characters are relative saints compared to the likes of WoW "heroes". These psychotic racists attack without provocation at random or in sickening pre-planned orgies of violence other sentient beings (as well as endangered species) purely because of their race and nationality, often using abilities chosen not because of their simple effectiveness, but as part of bizarre cults which advocate the use of pain, sorcery and demonic worship as a tool. After killing their near-helpless victims and devastating the local ecology until nothing living remains, these vicious, deranged murderers then mutilate the corpses in a sickening harvest of internal organs and body parts.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#551 - 2011-10-17 13:45:27 UTC
Needless to say, the players of these hellish psychopaths are themselves morally corrupt in ways that would make Hannibal Lecter gag in disgust.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Maredreus
StoneDogS
Intergalactic Space Hobos
#552 - 2011-10-17 13:45:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Maredreus
White Tree wrote:
Seleene wrote:
Ummm...is there a list somewhere in this thread of who among the CSM is the least / most trustworthy? Or do we all eat babies?

No we're all basically scum. We've actually been compared to the Reich several times completely casually. You stay classy EVE-O.


Godwin's law
"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches"

Lol why are those words censored?
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#553 - 2011-10-17 13:46:07 UTC
Just Another Toon wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Just Another Toon wrote:
oh dear..You keep digging that grave...
Well sure — it needs to be quite deep to fit you inside, seeing as how you can't even answer these simple questions:

How is the CSM corrupt?
Where's the abuse?
How is it connected to their “positions of trust”?


The questions have been answered, perhaps you find it difficult to read. over 400 personal likes and 50+topic likes, still says alot of people agree with me, Like it or not tippia..

Anyway i really cant answer any more your posts, i know you probably stamping your feet like a 2 year old, but its time you went back in your play pen


It hasn't been answered at all. Back before I went to bed, every time you asked you said either "lol look at the OP" or "lol, I don't have to explain, you're a goon." Now your trying to explain that you're just so popular on spacebook that you don't HAVE to explain.

No.

Explain where your accusations of corruption are coming from. Give some form of evidence. Harden the **** up.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#554 - 2011-10-17 13:46:29 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
In fact most EVE characters are relative saints compared to the likes of WoW "heroes". These psychotic racists attack without provocation at random or in sickening pre-planned orgies of violence other sentient beings (as well as endangered species) purely because of their race and nationality, often using abilities chosen not because of their simple effectiveness, but as part of bizarre cults which advocate the use of pain, sorcery and demonic worship as a tool. After killing their near-helpless victims and devastating the local ecology until nothing living remains, these vicious, deranged murderers then mutilate the corpses in a sickening harvest of internal organs and body parts.
Yeah, but then again, we have some of those psychos in EVE as well. Just look at Motsu and Irjunen… Cry
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#555 - 2011-10-17 13:55:03 UTC
Mr LaForge wrote:
Someone was a miner and got blown up....and started an epic troll whine thread. Good show sir. I like the tears.

On a related note, if Mitanni scams and burns. I don't care. I have fun watching it. Its a game. His CSM duties are unrelated the what he can or can not do ingame as long as he doesn't break NDA. So far CSM has done what they said they would and for that Good job.




The thing is, Mittani doesn't scam, outside of the standard nullsec diplomacy stuff. He doesn't have to, he basically has the entire Goonswarm wallet at his disposal, to say nothing about all the other ways he's made himself spacerich over the years. Hell, a major reason this whole thing with killing ice bots was so important was that it was fun an interesting enough to get Mittani to actually play EVE.


This is all stemming from some younger Goon selling some particularly clueless European(?) Alliance a supercap that didn't actually exist. When they became flighty, that goon brought in Mittani as a "neutral third party" and the twits handed over 11.5B isk without ever seeing the ship. This is generally considered a Faux Pas for this very reason -- he should have brought in a "Supercap director" or something similar instead of Mittani, but that's a discussion for another day.


Actually, given the similarities in writing style and avatar, I'd wager Just Another Toon is either Adum (the guy who was scammed out of 11.5B) or in the same alliance. That would explain a lot. If I was stupid enough to get scammed out of 11.5 billion isk I'd be posting some delicious forum tears, too.
Just Another Toon
Doomheim
#556 - 2011-10-17 13:57:27 UTC
Xython wrote:
Mr LaForge wrote:
Someone was a miner and got blown up....and started an epic troll whine thread. Good show sir. I like the tears.

On a related note, if Mitanni scams and burns. I don't care. I have fun watching it. Its a game. His CSM duties are unrelated the what he can or can not do ingame as long as he doesn't break NDA. So far CSM has done what they said they would and for that Good job.




The thing is, Mittani doesn't scam, outside of the standard nullsec diplomacy stuff. He doesn't have to, he basically has the entire Goonswarm wallet at his disposal, to say nothing about all the other ways he's made himself spacerich over the years. Hell, a major reason this whole thing with killing ice bots was so important was that it was fun an interesting enough to get Mittani to actually play EVE.


This is all stemming from some younger Goon selling some particularly clueless European(?) Alliance a supercap that didn't actually exist. When they became flighty, that goon brought in Mittani as a "neutral third party" and the twits handed over 11.5B isk without ever seeing the ship. This is generally considered a Faux Pas for this very reason -- he should have brought in a "Supercap director" or something similar instead of Mittani, but that's a discussion for another day.


Actually, given the similarities in writing style and avatar, I'd wager Just Another Toon is either Adum (the guy who was scammed out of 11.5B) or in the same alliance. That would explain a lot. If I was stupid enough to get scammed out of 11.5 billion isk I'd be posting some delicious forum tears, too.


He was part of the scam, simple. Not getting out of it.

over 400 likes and over 50 actual topic likes, seems alot of people agree with me...sorry...
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#557 - 2011-10-17 14:01:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Xython wrote:
Actually, given the similarities in writing style and avatar, I'd wager Just Another Toon is either Adum (the guy who was scammed out of 11.5B) or in the same alliance. That would explain a lot. If I was stupid enough to get scammed out of 11.5 billion isk I'd be posting some delicious forum tears, too.
That, or Alidar — the guy who went nuts over losing his mac to one of Mitten's Brutixes.
Just Another Toon wrote:
over 400 likes and over 50 actual topic likes, seems alot of people agree with me...sorry...
50 characters is not “a lot”, and those 400 are from the same five characters liking every post you make, no matter the content. So no, you are pretty much alone in your opinion. Hell, even with that five-man-band as your support, you are a minority in this thread… Lol

So how about you answer those questions, so you might actually be able to gain some support for your cause?
Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
#558 - 2011-10-17 14:04:46 UTC
Just Another Toon wrote:
Xython wrote:
Mr LaForge wrote:
Someone was a miner and got blown up....and started an epic troll whine thread. Good show sir. I like the tears.

On a related note, if Mitanni scams and burns. I don't care. I have fun watching it. Its a game. His CSM duties are unrelated the what he can or can not do ingame as long as he doesn't break NDA. So far CSM has done what they said they would and for that Good job.




The thing is, Mittani doesn't scam, outside of the standard nullsec diplomacy stuff. He doesn't have to, he basically has the entire Goonswarm wallet at his disposal, to say nothing about all the other ways he's made himself spacerich over the years. Hell, a major reason this whole thing with killing ice bots was so important was that it was fun an interesting enough to get Mittani to actually play EVE.


This is all stemming from some younger Goon selling some particularly clueless European(?) Alliance a supercap that didn't actually exist. When they became flighty, that goon brought in Mittani as a "neutral third party" and the twits handed over 11.5B isk without ever seeing the ship. This is generally considered a Faux Pas for this very reason -- he should have brought in a "Supercap director" or something similar instead of Mittani, but that's a discussion for another day.


Actually, given the similarities in writing style and avatar, I'd wager Just Another Toon is either Adum (the guy who was scammed out of 11.5B) or in the same alliance. That would explain a lot. If I was stupid enough to get scammed out of 11.5 billion isk I'd be posting some delicious forum tears, too.


He was part of the scam, simple. Not getting out of it.

over 400 likes and over 50 actual topic likes, seems alot of people agree with me...sorry...


Wow a whole 50 actual topic likes.

Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen.                   And some days, you're just a man with a gun.

Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#559 - 2011-10-17 14:04:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Xython
Just Another Toon wrote:

He was part of the scam, simple. Not getting out of it.

over 400 likes and over 50 actual topic likes, seems alot of people agree with me...sorry...


Quit waving your (nonexistant) epeen around, you pathetic little child. No one gives two squirts of **** about how many likes you have on spacebook. Especially when you can't provide any evidence for your claims other than "Look, MAH EPEEN IS BIG."

And no, he wasn't part of the scam. He just stood there and watched while someone particularly stupid fell for one.
Hesperus Vanderbeets
The Greater Goon
#560 - 2011-10-17 14:06:17 UTC
I am a homosexual.