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rattler the new mach?
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Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-10-04 16:24:58 UTC
so, according to F&I posts, drone damage augmentors are getting buffed, as well as cruises and torps. do you think the buff will be sufficient to pull the rattlesnake ahead of the mach as one-size-fits-all mission boat? i was thinking a 4 or 5 slot shiny active tank with the rest of the ship filled with damage mods.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Exploited Engineer
Creatively Applied Violence Inc.
#2 - 2012-10-04 16:27:59 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
so, according to F&I posts, drone damage augmentors are getting buffed, as well as cruises and torps. do you think the buff will be sufficient to pull the rattlesnake ahead of the mach as one-size-fits-all mission boat? i was thinking a 4 or 5 slot shiny active tank with the rest of the ship filled with damage mods.


It's still slow as molassis in January.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-10-04 16:29:38 UTC
so is the nightmare. it's still sexytime.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Yatama Kautsuo
Tencus
#4 - 2012-10-04 16:31:04 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
so is the nightmare. it's still sexytime.


but the mach isn't :P
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#5 - 2012-10-04 16:36:46 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
so, according to F&I posts, drone damage augmentors are getting buffed, as well as cruises and torps. do you think the buff will be sufficient to pull the rattlesnake ahead of the mach as one-size-fits-all mission boat? i was thinking a 4 or 5 slot shiny active tank with the rest of the ship filled with damage mods.


Do NOT blaspheme the name of the Holy Mach.. Just reading this post made me feel unclean.

Say 45 Hail Machariels and your sin will be forgiven.

But yea, 'Snakes (and Gila) pilots will love more drone power.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-10-04 16:39:25 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Hail Machariels


i see what you dd there

I should buy an Ishtar.
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-10-04 19:01:04 UTC
What about the npc getting near sleeper like AI and attacking our drones?

It seems like we are getting more drone dps, but we also getting higher chance of loosing the drones.

Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!
Tricky Dutch
Anoikis Equilibrium
Honorable Third Party
#8 - 2012-10-04 20:05:55 UTC
Just pay attention to them more, most of the Rattlesnake's DPS comes from sentry drones anyways.

I was planning on getting one for running Anoms in null sec, so this makes me a happy camper Twisted
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#9 - 2012-10-04 20:17:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Zhilia Mann
I very much doubt the Rattler is going to match the Mach's ability to get in, blow everything up, and get out. You're still looking at an immobile ship that has to use support mods to apply a fraction of its damage. Simply raising the amount of damage it puts out won't solve that. It will get better with the changes (as will the already very nice NDomi) but I don't think it will nearly unthrone the Mach.

Until the day the Mach gets its comeuppance....

Edit: any bets on how long it takes Ireland VonVicious to find this thread?
Nikolai Dostoyevski
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-10-04 21:45:38 UTC
How are CM's getting buffed? The TE changes aren't coming in the winter expansion last I checked.
stoicfaux
#11 - 2012-10-05 01:46:04 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
so, according to F&I posts,

Source? as in some specific posts?

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Arazel Chainfire
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-10-05 03:45:42 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
so, according to F&I posts,

Source? as in some specific posts?


First post here:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=155029&find=unread

Talks about the heavy missile changes. Only things that affect the rattler here are the changes to fury's/precisions for cruise, and javelins/rage for torps, plus changing missile acceleration to be a bit faster, and torps/hams/rockets being affected by guided missile precision/rigor rigs/etc.

2nd post here:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=158156&find=unread

Destroyer changes, but at the bottom they talk about buffing drone damage augmentors - t2 go from 19% to 23% damage bonus, and reduce CPU from 32 to 30.

Lastly, somewhere around here there was talk about NPC rebalancing, but I forgot which thread that was in. It was a dev post in either the FW NPC balance thread, or the (now locked) thread in missions and complexes about NPC combat AI to be upgraded, which talked about how the NPC's are going to handle aggro mechanics after they change it.

-Arazel
Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2012-10-05 03:58:26 UTC
Still wont beat the mach. If rattler had infinite slots layout then it would with the new upcoming mods.

But last time I checked it doesent have infinite slots so ... mach mach and mach once more.
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-10-05 20:58:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Vera Algaert
nvm

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feihcsiM
THE B0YS
#15 - 2012-10-06 12:22:16 UTC
My mission char almost exculsively uses a rattler nowadays. With a more than sufficient active tank, 2 omni links, 2 drone range mods and 4 damage augmenters I currently get over 800dps from sentry drones with perfect skills.

For me personally this is the *best* way to run my mission as I'm usualy pvping on another client and need something with minimal input, but for pure blitzing the mach is currently king and the buffing of drone amps won't really change that tbh.

It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.