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Why CCP isn't helping Eve-Kill Team ?
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Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-10-04 10:24:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Muad 'dib
plexes for eve-kill from ccp? :D

Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.
Acac Sunflyier
The Ascended Academy
#22 - 2012-10-04 10:25:27 UTC
CCP should buy Eve-Kill
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
#23 - 2012-10-04 10:26:32 UTC
What is this thread even about anyways?

The stuff.

Quote:
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...seizures...
Ilykbois Butt4Sex
Doomheim
#24 - 2012-10-04 11:19:39 UTC
There is another kill-board being constructed and looks to have great potential, it's in early stages but a viable option instead of just having eve-kill




Take a look and see what you think.


Decloaked.com
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
#25 - 2012-10-04 11:24:12 UTC
Ilykbois Butt4Sex wrote:
There is another kill-board being constructed and looks to have great potential, it's in early stages but a viable option instead of just having eve-kill




Take a look and see what you think.


Decloaked.com
My Corp has been looking for people like you.

Anyways how long has that taken so far David?

...confusion...
Dasola
New Edens Freeports
#26 - 2012-10-04 11:37:40 UTC
To Op. Why dont you that use eve-kill help out? After all its service you fellows seems to use and enjoy. Im sure if punch of you would pay 2$ donation to them they would get servers up and running in notime.

Personally i dont see why CCP should help them, where would it end then? They would set dangerous and expensive policy of paying hardware for 3rd party developers. im sure theres a lot of services that would happily accept free servers

We are Minmatar, Our ship are made of scraps, but look what our scraps can do...
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#27 - 2012-10-04 11:38:26 UTC
EVE-Kill is not under the responsibility of CCP.

Cool deal with it.
Marcus Harikari
#28 - 2012-10-04 11:41:55 UTC
EVE-kill is awesome. I think CCP should help them out if they can.
Cyno Kidd
Doomheim
#29 - 2012-10-04 12:02:14 UTC
Liafcipe9000 wrote:
EVE-Kill is not under the responsibility of CCP.

Cool deal with it.


And I have a big screen TV. What's you're point ?

Please do this : don't use killboard, EveMon, DotLan, EveHQ, EFT and all other 3rd party programs for a month. Come back to us and let us know if you're still playing the game.
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-10-04 12:02:56 UTC
Imports Plus wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
Because if you help one 3rd party group, you HAVE to help ALL the 3rd party groups. Otherwise, you risk looking like you are either picking favorites and/or that you are inconsistent/unreliable.


Except that the killboard and km tracking is vital to many thousands of pvp players. Any other 3rd party app is just fluff.

HELP EVE-KILL DAMMIT


Vital ??
Nope, whats vital is a ship with guns.


The killboard is just fluff
The killboard is just about epeen stroking

It's why they are run on an Opt-in basis.







Serious question for you.
If eve-kill is Vital to your gameplay, how many of the needed 8000 dollars, have you personally sent them ?
Because I'm guessing your contribution is $0
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#31 - 2012-10-04 12:14:58 UTC
Cyno Kidd wrote:
Liafcipe9000 wrote:
EVE-Kill is not under the responsibility of CCP.

Cool deal with it.


And I have a big screen TV. What's you're point ?

Please do this : don't use killboard, EveMon, DotLan, EveHQ, EFT and all other 3rd party programs for a month. Come back to us and let us know if you're still playing the game.

what a stupid idea Ugh
and a stupid post while at it...
Gun Gal
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#32 - 2012-10-04 12:15:45 UTC
Cyno Kidd wrote:
Liafcipe9000 wrote:
EVE-Kill is not under the responsibility of CCP.

Cool deal with it.


And I have a big screen TV. What's you're point ?

Please do this : don't use killboard, EveMon, DotLan, EveHQ, EFT and all other 3rd party programs for a month. Come back to us and let us know if you're still playing the game.



Its been done by many people who take personal pride in victory, not as a public epeen event as obviously you do.

As far as the fitting tools, whelp, the longer youplay eve the less you really use it due to the knowledge you gain.
TriadSte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2012-10-04 12:33:07 UTC
Although I am totally behind keeping Eve-Kill alive :D I wonder why the need for such high end hardware to run what's basically a database?
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#34 - 2012-10-04 13:21:38 UTC
Acac Sunflyier wrote:
CCP should buy Eve-Kill

and then make them develop a killboard for World of Darkness


...rite?

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION
Serena Serene
Heretic University
#35 - 2012-10-04 13:30:29 UTC
RAGE QU1T wrote:
Proposes CCP take the DUST killboard template, tweeks it for EVE, lock a Dev in a closet for a month, and implement for TQ.End result CCP saves $8,000, the community aswel as CCP is no longer dependent on a third party that had ltm resources.


Because a dev locked away for a month doesn't cost anything.
Krell Kroenen
The Devil's Shadow
#36 - 2012-10-04 14:00:40 UTC
If Eve-Kill is so popular and used by so many, have them pony up a dollar each and that should solve the issue unless the people who care about it make up less than 3% of the Eve population. Then you might have a problem funding it via player donations. I myself rather have my subscription dollars be used on improving the game and keeping the hamsters fed.
Ilykbois Butt4Sex
Doomheim
#37 - 2012-10-04 15:30:38 UTC
Graic Gabtar wrote:
Ilykbois Butt4Sex wrote:
There is another kill-board being constructed and looks to have great potential, it's in early stages but a viable option instead of just having eve-kill




Take a look and see what you think.


Decloaked.com
My Corp has been looking for people like you.

Anyways how long has that taken so far David?

...confusion...



CCP didn't like my name, sad times.

Anyway check the site out, it's a perfectly good alternative to eve-kill and in some ways better. Cool
Karbowiak
State War Academy
Caldari State
#38 - 2012-10-04 17:45:22 UTC
TriadSte wrote:
Although I am totally behind keeping Eve-Kill alive :D I wonder why the need for such high end hardware to run what's basically a database?



Problem is EDK is coded like ****, and requires so much memory to do the table joins. We have found ways to limit it and make it much faster than default EDK, but it's still memory hungry like hell.

Gallente Citizen 827473904528 wrote:
Graic Gabtar wrote:
Ilykbois Butt4Sex wrote:
There is another kill-board being constructed and looks to have great potential, it's in early stages but a viable option instead of just having eve-kill




Take a look and see what you think.


Decloaked.com
My Corp has been looking for people like you.

Anyways how long has that taken so far David?

...confusion...



CCP didn't like my name, sad times.

Anyway check the site out, it's a perfectly good alternative to eve-kill and in some ways better. Cool


Decloaked might be a fine technical example, but it's missing alot of features, and the looks aren't exactly up to par. But hey, if you want to compare Decloaked and EVE-KILL, go for it. I for one welcome the competition Smile
Khorkrak
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#39 - 2012-10-04 18:40:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Khorkrak
Well there are a few key differences. For one, the site is just one example of what you can do with the code. The backend is separate from the web code and it's also decoupled from the particular database it's running on mostly. So if you don't like the look or whatever, you can create your own web app without having to start completely from scratch. You can choose which database to use without having to rewrite a bunch of application code. You would still have to adjust the DDL (sql table creation scripts).

This is still very much a work in progress however. It's experimental and some scalability issues have indeed become apparent. Nothing that'll cause problems soon but certainly would down the road. Solutions involving dramatically reducing the storage requirements for the most rapidly growing data have been provided by others and I'm implementing these now along with design changes to make parallelism easier - horizontal scaling using multiple servers as opposed to 1 massive box. It'll be interesting to see how this pans out. Nothing is achieved by not daring to try! Big smile

And yes the database is small still of course - just over 80,000 killmails.

You can monitor the responsiveness of the site here pingdom

I honestly and truly feel for the eve-kill devs. It's an awful position to be in. Although I have no love for MySQL and detest PHP it's still painful to see so much trouble besetting fellow developers as well as a key site for the EVE community.

Developer of http://www.decloaked.com and http://sourceforge.net/projects/pykb/
NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#40 - 2012-10-04 18:44:10 UTC  |  Edited by: NickyYo
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