Missions & Complexes

Why is it inherently CCP policy to make COSMOS missions and the like virtually unnoticeable in game? There's not even a hint of information about these storylines in game. You have to google to find where they are, that is, if you by chance happen to catch word of them even existing in the first place.

Back when I first started, man these types of missions would have made the game so much more fun. So many people don't get that far, aren't lucky enough to give it the chance to see what is really out there. It's kind of dissapointing.

Where does Cosmos missions fit in? I used them on one character to move directly to lvl 4 missions from lvl 2, after a 10 month break.
Was good to get access to lvl 4 agents for that char, but would probably been better off using them more tactically, later on when the character had progressed a bit further without the use of those missions.

Hmm well, I have to disagree. Don't get me wrong, I can have respect for the romantacism and sense of adventure in Eve. That whole 'eve is real;' word of mouth and people come together to overcome adversity **** is great. But you have to face the facts, that's not how it happens from the get-go.

The value of exploration and discovery of these is not great enough to make a newcomer fly around aimlessly looking. That's not enough to build eve for these first timers. There needs to be some semblance of a hint or direction.

Plus, I've been through a lot of corps and that kind of trivial stuff is just not talked about...


Anyways, cosmos missions are not the most spectacular feats of video game plot development. However, they contain:

1) Background story of the different factions

2) Always always, meeting other players fighting in these same deadspace pockets with you.


#2 is important because #2 is what allows people to meet other pilots, start discussion of game elements, and develop the kind of connections you're talking about that they did not have in the first place. That's why I think it should be available to newbies, early on,by suggestion or hint, and not by the rare chance someone comes along and mentions it to them.

That's not necessarily a bad thing, since they are story missions one would assume like in other games that when the stories over, its over. The faction standing is also a plus, cause it will allow players who decide to continue running missions to go on and do that.

I'm interested to hear a dev's opinion, are they supposed to be 'hidden' like this? or just lackluster attention for them to be glazed over? They could be more connected with the opening experience in new eden, but they remain unseen works of history and backstory, intentionally so or perhaps lacking in this regard?

So you're saying if people didn't have to go google 'cosmos missions' to find out about them it would be dumbed down game content? That's just silly. Maybe you feel accomplished, but it's just an inconvenience to others who are just beginning.

And im only talking about the cosmos missions, not every secret out there. Just to help the newer guys get into it a little more.

It's only logical that being immersed in a virtual experience should be driven by content located within the game, not directed to outside sources found through arbitrary quests of google searching.

I have to agree with #2. I wish there were more "unknown" to be found in game and exsplore. It is space and its huge.

We did alot of the COSMOS missions within corp to get our standings up for High Sec POSes, and we still have 2003-2007 players who comment "Oh what is this" giving them something new to exsplore and do within EVE.

As said, i wish there were more of the unknow which only few knew about, or at least you had to exsplore to find.

Tell me where I can find information on the missions handled out by the zero sec COSMOS agents. Just their names will be fine.

I mean, these have been out there for years, surely somebody must have explored them in depth.

No?

double-posting ... edited away. sorry.

It is a trick question, DC.

I am trying to point out how PvE can stay undocumented by the players for years in EVE, which is in fact a feature I like.

In other MMO's I have played a new PvE feature/encounter would be documented in details within a week after its release and the knowledge would be hosted for everybody to easy find and read through.

By the way, I know those mission names already.

I've done quite a few of the different 0.0 Cosmos agent missions. The ones I did had nothing to do with booster production. If I remember right the Caldari ones "story" was that Caldari forces had made headway into Gurista territory and I needed to help them or some such.

Anyway, they are basically level 5 missions (in terms of incoming damage) without the neut towers (at least for Caldari and Gallente). There was quite a lot of Ewar; I remember "cleverly" trying to kill off gurista elite cruisers that were jamming only to spawn more and more and being permajammed for close to an hour on one mission. I did the Caldari ones probably....3 years ago with a Cerberus and a friend repping me from a basi. A tengu could probably do those missions solo now. They have great rewards (I remember one mission dropping 3 different x-type mods, shield boost amp, photon hardener and explosion hardener I believe).

As for "secrets kept by Alliances" I think you'd be surprised. Most people know little to nothing about them and those that do are so few that it is quite irrelevant. Not to mention that they are a one-time deal, so those that do them initially do it for the $$$ and transcribing records of the missions is an afterthought, if a thought at all. The average isk maker in 0.0 is ratting or farming anomalies with a small portion doing exploration. COSMOS are an ancient entity in Eve that many either are too young to know about or have simply forgotten them.

In regards to Booster production, there is actually quite a bit of documentation on the exploration sites that show up.