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Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4,801
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation Likes received: 4,801	#81 - 2012-10-04 00:39:09 UTC 1 Cannibal Kane wrote: I have seen many Threats like this. I will run for HIGHSEC in CSM come next elections. I'd vote for you. I mean you can't possibly be worse than Alekseyev karrde.

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Imports Plus Doomheim Likes received: 193	#82 - 2012-10-04 00:52:04 UTC 2 Darth Gustav wrote: James 315 wrote: Zhade Lezte wrote: Are you denying James315's playstyle as a valid one? He lives in highsec, why are you trying to disenfranchise his voice I too would like an answer to this question. James 315 for CSM! Said it before, will say it again.

Machiavellian Space Bastards 28,489
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards Likes received: 28,489	#83 - 2012-10-04 01:15:45 UTC Has Dinsdale not run out of Tinfoil yet? James315 may have an agenda but he also has a point. In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded. New Player FAQ Feyd's Survival Pack

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Selinate Likes received: 1,080	#84 - 2012-10-04 01:33:42 UTC I'll typically transfer between all three secs and then wander into a WH. Where in this plethora of players who are confined to a certain security of space do I fit in?

Mars Theran

Foreign Interloper

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#85 - 2012-10-04 01:39:20 UTC

There's a good reason we don't have a Highsec representative: Because nobody will vote for one. The majority of the participating voter base is in Nullsec, so we get Nullsec. Pretty simple.

..not really bad either. Considering Cannibal Kane might be running for the next CSM, (probably not), as a Highsec representative, (yeah right), I think we'd be better off with a Nullsec Blobfest worthy note taker and spreadsheet maker.

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Mars Theran

Foreign Interloper

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#86 - 2012-10-04 01:46:42 UTC | Edited by: Mars Theran

Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:

Scatim Helicon wrote:

D'Om K'vash wrote:

high sec players are new and in small corps so of course we arn't going to be as organized as a 5 year character living in couple thousand player alliance.

There's a vast number of old guard players who've been living in highsec mining and missioning and trading away for years and years.

The problem with highsec is that the players who live there are so thoroughly mollycoddled by CONCORD and the comforts of Empire that it encourages an insular and narrow playstyle which doesn't translate well to the requirements of CSM campaigning or the responsibilities of office. That's why we tend to find that the most effective CSMs come from 0.0, whereas highsec CSMs are mostly ineffective and anonymous grey suits, nakedly self-serving, and/or batshit insane.

If you want highsec CSMs, change highsec.

Oh, and your dear leader is the shining example of a someone who is NOT self-serving?
Oh, and let's not forget that little thing where he was booted in disgrace from the current CSM for displaying some sociopathic tendencies.

Gotta love goons. Facts and reality and zero bearing when you have a good story.

You do like to exaggerate don't you? I wouldn't call sticking your foot in your mouth, while publicly broadcast over the internet, following a bottle of 'take-your-pick' sociopathic.

1) Sociopaths don't get drunk and stupid and prefer to be in control.
2) Sociopaths make a point of cultivating a public figure that does not betray their true intentions and motivations
3) Sociopaths don't get off by getting random, unknown people to randomly harass some person and cause them pain and/or grief. They do it themselves.

Just had to point that out for you. Please continue as you were.

P.S. .. pretty sure there is no such thing as sociopathic 'tendancies.'

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DarthNefarius

Minmatar Heavy Industries

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#87 - 2012-10-04 01:53:08 UTC | Edited by: DarthNefarius

lanyaie wrote:

D'Om K'vash wrote:

I'm going through list of csm members and all i see is null sec.. null sec.. null sec.. worm hole.. null sec.. i mean jesus christ the keys to the asylum have been handed to the inmates. what is it 20% of all players live in null and they are 80%of the eve community representation.. ******* awesome ccp. No wonder there is a 15minute aggression timer for a ship getting pointed. Dull sec goons put it there so they can make billions ganking freighters with their bump machariels and 2 day condors points to get aggression. What a joke.

You just lost a freighter I assume?
Also nothing is stopping you from becoming CSM for highsec or for getting someone to become CSM for highsec.

(snip).

The popular vote system actually is quite a hinderance for there being a HI SEC CSM
We need electoral districting for CSMs ...Trouble is how to implement it without it being easily gamed but then again why would anyone care enough to make it gamed (A free trip to ICELAND sounds like more of a punishment then a gift to me Blink

j/k )

Gilbaron wrote:

99% of the things that affect nullsec and lowsec in a positive way will also be beneficial to highsec players

What a pile of bull pkey most crud that affects HI SEC from NULL is negitive especially all the BS ways NULL tries to force Hi SECers into being NULL suckers

An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'

Jojo Jackson

Dead Red Eye

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#88 - 2012-10-04 01:55:43 UTC

Mai Khumm wrote:

There will never be a high sec CSM member. When someone from high sec runs for CSM, null sec makes fun of them...

^This.

As PvP guys allways belive, they are the most important players they would NEVER respect a PvE CSM (just imagin Mitani together with a PvE guy in one room ... every argument of the PvE guy would be anihilated with "EvE is PvP sucker!!!!1111 Shut up damit!!").
Even if there would be one ... he would have no ears at CCP anyway.

PS: He didn't get that many votes as he is so competent or great ... he just abused the IMENS Goon-infrastructur for his propaganda (forum+voice chat+massager+ingame chats/tools). And as every goon-char has backup from ~2to5 out-of-goon alts ... well, will be hard to reach this numbers for anyone else.

Why the hell can't I fitt capital repairs or shield booster on an Orca ... it's an CAPITAL ship!

DarthNefarius

Minmatar Heavy Industries

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#89 - 2012-10-04 02:06:56 UTC

Darth Gustav wrote:

Why on earth does CCP have to do everything "for the sake of high-sec?"
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Because the voting system is gamed for large alliances. Large alliances are not suitable for HI SEC

Darth Gustav wrote:

not to mention you have a CSM or two right now.

Bullll sH! ttZ

An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'

Tippia

Sunshine and Lollipops

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#90 - 2012-10-04 02:49:30 UTC | Edited by: Tippia

DarthNefarius wrote:

Darth Gustav wrote:

Why on earth does CCP have to do everything "for the sake of high-sec?"

Because the voting system is gamed for large alliances. Large alliances are not suitable for HI SEC

How so? Do alliance votes somehow count double?

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Darth Gustav wrote:

not to mention you have a CSM or two right now.

Bullll sH! ttZ

Ok, three or four, then, since beyond the two who are expressly highsec candidates, there are a few more that spend a lot of their time with related matters.

Viziam Amarr Empire 3,706
Nicolo da'Vicenza Viziam Amarr Empire Likes received: 3,706	#91 - 2012-10-04 02:55:59 UTC 1 DarthNefarius wrote: Darth Gustav wrote: Why on earth does CCP have to do everything "for the sake of high-sec?" ] Because the voting system is gamed for large alliances. Large alliances are not suitable for HI SEC lol the person with the most votes in the current csm is a wormhole representative hth

Alavaria Fera

GoonWaffe

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#92 - 2012-10-04 03:20:34 UTC

Jojo Jackson wrote:

Mai Khumm wrote:

There will never be a high sec CSM member. When someone from high sec runs for CSM, null sec makes fun of them...

Yes, please continue to just give up and accept this.

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Tarn Kugisa Kugisa Dynamics Likes received: 558	#93 - 2012-10-04 03:42:01 UTC Believe it or not, nullsec players care about the game way more than highsec players. This is because highsec players are a majority of casual players who play probably 4 hours a week. It takes dedication to be part of nullsec Be polite. Be efficient. Have a plan to troll everyone you meet - KuroVolt


Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation Likes received: 4,801	#94 - 2012-10-04 03:44:05 UTC Protip: being enthusiastic about PVE does not mean you're against PVP gameplay and vice versa. If a PVE focused candidate was all "PVE content should be good" rather than "PVP should be diminished or restricted so I can do bad PVE content in peace" then no reasonable person would object to it.

SmilingVagrant

Doomheim

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#95 - 2012-10-04 03:44:37 UTC

Tarn Kugisa wrote:

Believe it or not, nullsec players care about the game way more than highsec players. This is because highsec players are a majority of casual players who play probably 4 hours a week.
It takes dedication to be part of nullsec

Eh I'm going to say this depends. People doing heavy production/trading in highsec are every bit as invested as we are. Not to mention most alliances have just as many weekend warriors as highsec does.

I'd say on average we tend to spend more money on Eve itself as I honestly don't know that many people who stick with it more than a year that don't have two accounts at minimum.

Lyrrashae

Hellstar Towing and Recovery

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#96 - 2012-10-04 03:55:46 UTC | Edited by: Lyrrashae

<----Me for hisec CSM rep.

If elected, I promise to get the OP --and his/her/its alts, and their alts, and their alts-- perma-banned so he can go find a game better suited to him that much sooner!

E:

OP is trolling! News-flash! Helloooooooo, McFly??!

Jesus Christ, people, what's happened to your troll detecting skills of late?

Nicely done, though, OP:

I would say...hmmm...

8/10.

Your Troll-Fu shows great promise, keep it up Bear

Ni.

Scatim Helicon

State War Academy

Caldari State

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#97 - 2012-10-04 06:31:37 UTC

Vimsy Vortis wrote:

Protip: being enthusiastic about PVE does not mean you're against PVP gameplay and vice versa.

If a PVE focused candidate was all "PVE content should be good" rather than "PVP should be diminished or restricted so I can do bad PVE content in peace" then no reasonable person would object to it.

The typical highseccer doesn't want PvE to be good, because making it 'good' would likely involve them paying attention to their client to get the most out of it. The highseccer dream is PvE which is completely passive and risk free so they can leave it running for hour after hour while they sleep/go to work/ watch movies and then come back to the PC and see another billion isk in the wallet.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.

Deaths Consortium Pandemic Horde 268
Cameron Cahill Deaths Consortium Pandemic Horde Likes received: 268	#98 - 2012-10-04 08:33:23 UTC 2 D'Om K'vash wrote: The 15minute aggression timer is a flawed mechanic No it is not, its is designed to stop supers/caps logging to avoid death, it is one of the best mechanics introduced in the last year.


Cameron Cahill Deaths Consortium Pandemic Horde Likes received: 268	#99 - 2012-10-04 08:36:25 UTC Mai Khumm wrote: ~2to5 out-of-goon alts ... well, will be hard to reach this numbers for anyone else. Exactly and seeing as most of these are trade/cyno/gank alts which spent most of their time in Highsec your few leading the masses mantra starts to look a bit flawed.......

Nocturnal Romance Cynosural Field Theory. 126,785
Alice Saki Nocturnal Romance Cynosural Field Theory. Likes received: 126,785	#100 - 2012-10-04 08:39:33 UTC Cannibal Kane wrote: I have seen many Threats like this. I will run for HIGHSEC in CSM come next elections. Yes! FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - Currenly rebuilding gaming machine, I will Return.