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Borascus
#1 - 2012-09-30 23:06:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Borascus
In the Chronicle 514 a reference is made to a negative effect observed in test subjects of the Implant Technology. It is reported by 3 of the Heads of State, Roden holds his hand close to his chest. But in summary it is described as:


Quote:
"Blood-red skies, strange beings, and the number 514, often written in blood," said Shakor.


A constantly recurring theme prevalent in a proportion of test subjects, comparable with the first capsuleer's and the rate of Wet-Grave. One of the underlying obstacles is in defining whether 514 was written in blood by the dying (reference to lost cases) or to the subjects that suffered cognitive collapse? I'd lean towards the cognitive collapse option.

In this instance;
Quote:
514 is the secure communication sent by Mordu's Legion concerning the Immortal Soldier project developed by the Amarrians, atleast if Templar One is to be beileved.
it should be observed that Shakor refers to the same events Tibus Heth observed. The knowledge of the Legion's secure communication would likely be classified and outside the scope of frontline infantry, as they may be captured and tortured for intelligence.


A topic of interest, is why an entire race in stasis is implied to have nightmarish visions of the number 514 written in blood. Is this a clue as to the fate of the Sleepers? Was there a war between the Sleepers and another race, that may have caught them up 1,000's of years later?

Any help is appreciated, as well as any insight as to the visions of writing in blood.
Wyke Mossari
Staner Industries
#2 - 2012-10-01 18:52:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Wyke Mossari
Blood Red Skies wrote:

As the sun goes down, I move around
Keeping to the shadows
Life, hangs by a thread
And I¹ve heard it said, that I¹ll not see tomorrow
If that¹s my destiny, it¹ll have to be
So I¹ll face the future
Running out of time
I¹m on the line
But I¹ll go down fighting
Felt the hand of justice
Telling wrong from right
Threw me out upon the street in the middle of the night
Cybernetic hearbeat
Digital precise
Pneumatic fingers nearly had me in their vice
Not begging you
I¹m telling you
You won¹t break me
You won¹t make me
You won¹t take me,
Under blood red skies
You won¹t break me
You won¹t take me
I¹ll fight you under
Blood red skies
Through a shattered city, watched by laser eyes
Overhead the night squad glides
The decaying paradise
Automatic sniper
With computer sights
Scans the bleak horizon for it's victim of the night
They¹re closing in
They¹ll never win
You won¹t break me
You won¹t make me
You won¹t take me,
Under blood red skies
You won¹t break me
You won¹t take me
I¹ll fight you under
Blood red skies
As the end is drawing near
Standing proud, I won¹t give in to fear
As I die a legend will be born
I will stand. I will fight
You¹ll never take me alive
I¹ll stand my ground
I won¹t go down
You won¹t break me
You won¹t make me
You won¹t take me,
Under blood red skies
You won¹t break me
You won¹t take me
I¹ll fight you under
Blood red skies
You¹ll never take me alive
I¹m telling you
Hands of justice
I will stand, I will fight
As the sun goes down
I won¹t give in to fear
Borascus
#3 - 2012-10-01 19:32:25 UTC
Wyke Mossari wrote:
I
Blood Red Skies" wrote:

More Stuff


This is Clearly a reference to CCP 'Santana' Abraxas

Although the topic remains, Soldiers given the research opportunity of a life-time, the ability to try first hand a combat augmentation that allows them the chance to fight again.

Only to find out they have company in their once individual minds, and it is a contorted fragment of a once great informorph race, seemingly locked in the throes of lockdown, the volume of these visions, the single most unifying factor being the implant keeping them in existance.

The only option would be the serial number on the back of the neuro-scribe machine in the clone vat bays. Or the telephone number for a filthy fedo.

Either way, I doubt the topic of 514 will fall into despair as quickly.........
Roga Dracor
Gladiators of Rage
Fraternity.
#4 - 2012-10-01 21:55:35 UTC
It's Judas Priest..Blink

It's no use going back to yesterday, because I was a different person then, and it's a poor sort of memory that only works backward.
Roga Dracor
Gladiators of Rage
Fraternity.
#5 - 2012-10-02 18:21:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Roga Dracor
In lockdown, indeed they are..

Been looking for proof of the Jovians continued existence and it has been in front of my face all along..

Anoikis

The Jovians are in Anoikis, of that I am now sure..

Read it carefully, I haven't even deciphered it to my own satifaction. But, look closely at the dialogue. Look at the first paragraphs of dialogue and compare to the last paragraphs of dialogue.. See a difference? First, quotation marks, then, none..

A conversation with no words spoken..

Borascus and I made a discovery this morning, one that I am still unsure of the implications that it suggests. I had meant to keep it close to the chest, but, my research has yielded little new info from it, as of this moment, so I am opening the discussion to the community at large..

Only two wormhole system's loci end in 514. (J141514) and (J140514), a class 1 and class 5 system, respectively. The class 1 is a white dwarf system, the class 5 a red giant system, two stars in the latter stages of their life. Both show activity against the resident Sleepers, so I assume they are occupied. I would concentrate on the one with blood red skies.. BTW, both of the chronicles, Anoikis and the Vitrauze Project show blood red Anoikis skies in their graphics...

As Borascus pointed out 5-1=4..

But, back to Anoikis, the Jovians do not want us looking at these items too carefully. There is more to them than the Tech 3 technology that we have been led towards..

Data Library: 11,799,985

Neural Network Analyzer: 1,162,057

Coordinates Database: 244,234

Drone AI Nexus: 70,726

So, that is a good place to concentrate our efforts...

On a final note, before I let you ponder my words more carefully, the end of the Vitrauze Project is a conversation between Hilen Tukoss and someone else, an unidentified Gallente, and it clearly shows he knew what locus Lianda Burreau entered, why did he not relay this information to the members of Arek'Jaalan? He could have saved us a lot of trouble, and possibly allowed us to recover the Trinary Data she carried..

It's no use going back to yesterday, because I was a different person then, and it's a poor sort of memory that only works backward.
Borascus
#6 - 2012-10-02 20:59:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Borascus
Roga Dracor wrote:
In lockdown, indeed they are..

But, look closely at the dialogue. Look at the first paragraphs of dialogue and compare to the last paragraphs of dialogue.. See a difference? First, quotation marks, then, none..

A conversation with no words spoken..

Only two wormhole system's loci end in 514. (J141514) and (J140514), a class 1 and class 5 system, respectively. The class 1 is a white dwarf system, the class 5 a red giant system, two stars in the latter stages of their life. Both show activity against the resident Sleepers, so I assume they are occupied. I would concentrate on the one with blood red skies.. BTW, both of the chronicles, Anoikis and the Vitrauze Project show blood red Anoikis skies in their graphics...

As Borascus pointed out 5-1=4..

But, back to Anoikis, the Jovians do not want us looking at these items too carefully. There is more to them than the Tech 3 technology that we have been led towards..

Data Library: 11,799,985

Neural Network Analyzer: 1,162,057

Coordinates Database: 244,234

Drone AI Nexus: 70,726

So, that is a good place to concentrate our efforts...

On a final note, before I let you ponder my words more carefully, the end of the Vitrauze Project is a conversation between Hilen Tukoss and someone else, an unidentified Gallente, and it clearly shows he knew what locus Lianda Burreau entered, why did he not relay this information to the members of Arek'Jaalan? He could have saved us a lot of trouble, and possibly allowed us to recover the Trinary Data she carried..



I hadn't noticed the lack of quotation marks at the start of the paragraph. Kinda swings the bridge a little, I tried to assess a position on the Crimson Nebula and at the time it appeared to be a fruitless endeavour as the sky looks the same to an untrained eye. Specifically when looking around in "View in Planet Mode"

The purchases of Sleeper Contents always struck me as a bit odd, tagged to the end of the Anoikis Chronicle. Not just for the pre-existing Vitrauze Project Chronicle or the fact the two could have run in the same header.

But the listing of the "loot drops" as Sleeper Components I'd normally associate the Ancient Salvaged Materials as the components, the stuff in the wreck being used as fittings.

Also; the show-info for the Sleeper Components:
Ancient Coordinates Database listed as fully functional, intact, millenia old and 3-dimensional.

Neural Network Analyzer -
Quote:
A cursory analysis of the software systems within reveals that it operates as some kind of monitoring device. The specialized design suggests it was used to process vast amounts of basic data and identify anomalies.
- What kind of anomalies will be detected in a neural network?

Sleeper Drone AI Nexus - This took the individuality away from Sleeper/s for me, if they needed a Nexus for AI to control a Drone then why is it a Sleeper? (Battleship Drop)

and

Sleeper Data Library
Quote:
Although the information within remains a complete mystery, it is immediately apparent that it stretches far back into time.

Small data fragments preceding each file appear to function as time-stamps. If this is indeed what they are, then this Data Library could offer a snapshot of the universe stretching back millennia.
Were these Sleeper's (Cruiser Size) just left dangling in space until the area needed a bit of spring cleaning? Why would the Sleeper's a fully digital society need frames of reference in their own archives.

This is why Roga's mention of the J-loci is important, as the astronomical basis relates to the Equinox Coordinate System which would have all of the J-Loci measured from the same point to be of significance. However, one of the theories that puts relevance on the 514 period is a catastrophe

A co-ordinate system formed from multiple locations would be a lot more than the 6 digits we see in W-Space.

Then there was the Cartesian Temporal Coordinator with the library and coordinates listed as fittings.

It made me look at the Quarantine Area a bit differently, firstly an outpost is compeltely different to an area.

As the message heard over comms seemed to be conflict chatter, but the combined quote
Quote:
“You have entered a quarantine area. This region is infected. Leave now.” “Violation of the quarantine will result in –“ “ –missiles are armed, ready to – “
has to quotation marks coming from the same area, long dead, as though the second quote took over the circuit whilst the first part was being broadcast.

Although Hilen Could have given Arek'Jaalan members the information, I figured he had masters to serve that were higher than his ambitions for Arek'Jaalan, who they are eludes me. Hilen** put almost no wealth into it and when the character Tukoss abandoned Arek'Jaalan the Archivists were left without pay.

(**=Unlike Dropbear/CCP)
Roga Dracor
Gladiators of Rage
Fraternity.
#7 - 2012-10-03 03:59:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Roga Dracor
Hypothesis for ya, folks..

J1=1st Jovian Empire
J2=2nd Jovian Empire

Does anyone live in a J2**** System that has Talocan Sites?

I live in a Class 5 J1 that definitely does have Talocan Sites...

Scratch that, as the 1st Empire was the largest, all Classes should have Talocan Sites..

You guys and your empirical proof.. Blink

It's no use going back to yesterday, because I was a different person then, and it's a poor sort of memory that only works backward.
Roga Dracor
Gladiators of Rage
Fraternity.
#8 - 2012-10-03 04:13:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Roga Dracor
Borascus wrote:


But the listing of the "loot drops" as Sleeper Components I'd normally associate the Ancient Salvaged Materials as the components, the stuff in the wreck being used as fittings.


Because the Empires made themselves middlemen. The Blue Loot is the BPs for the components BPs and probably a vast majority of Jovian technology, which are used to build the T3 items. They cornered the market on the technology and they cut themselves into the manufacturing process. Evil

Borascus wrote:

Also; the show-info for the Sleeper Components:
Ancient Coordinates Database listed as fully functional, intact, millenia old and 3-dimensional.

Neural Network Analyzer -
Quote:
A cursory analysis of the software systems within reveals that it operates as some kind of monitoring device. The specialized design suggests it was used to process vast amounts of basic data and identify anomalies.
- What kind of anomalies will be detected in a neural network?

Sleeper Drone AI Nexus - This took the individuality away from Sleeper/s for me, if they needed a Nexus for AI to control a Drone then why is it a Sleeper? (Battleship Drop)

and

Sleeper Data Library
Quote:
Although the information within remains a complete mystery, it is immediately apparent that it stretches far back into time.

Small data fragments preceding each file appear to function as time-stamps. If this is indeed what they are, then this Data Library could offer a snapshot of the universe stretching back millennia.
Were these Sleeper's (Cruiser Size) just left dangling in space until the area needed a bit of spring cleaning? Why would the Sleeper's a fully digital society need frames of reference in their own archives.

This is why Roga's mention of the J-loci is important, as the astronomical basis relates to the Equinox Coordinate System which would have all of the J-Loci measured from the same point to be of significance. However, one of the theories that puts relevance on the 514 period is a catastrophe

A co-ordinate system formed from multiple locations would be a lot more than the 6 digits we see in W-Space.

Then there was the Cartesian Temporal Coordinator with the library and coordinates listed as fittings.

It made me look at the Quarantine Area a bit differently, firstly an outpost is compeltely different to an area.

As the message heard over comms seemed to be conflict chatter, but the combined quote
Quote:
“You have entered a quarantine area. This region is infected. Leave now.” “Violation of the quarantine will result in –“ “ –missiles are armed, ready to – “
has to quotation marks coming from the same area, long dead, as though the second quote took over the circuit whilst the first part was being broadcast.

Although Hilen Could have given Arek'Jaalan members the information, I figured he had masters to serve that were higher than his ambitions for Arek'Jaalan, who they are eludes me. Hilen** put almost no wealth into it and when the character Tukoss abandoned Arek'Jaalan the Archivists were left without pay.

(**=Unlike Dropbear/CCP)


As to the rest, I'm not sure how much is fluff and how much relevent. Hilen was a scoundrel..Twisted

It's no use going back to yesterday, because I was a different person then, and it's a poor sort of memory that only works backward.
Borascus
#9 - 2012-10-03 14:52:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Borascus
Roga Dracor wrote:
Borascus wrote:
Stuff


As to the rest, I'm not sure how much is fluff and how much relevent. Hilen was a scoundrel..Twisted


I'm less sure; if the Inverted Talocan Exchange Depot was an Emigration Centre, bringing new bodies for the Talocan to be exiled into, and taking them away just as quickly, the Quarantined symptom may be a form of Neural Shock - the changing circumstances and the potential for an informorphic society to enter the same shock returning to the corporeal and temporal existence is massive.

Also, the missiles presumably launched from something to something. Whatever it is, any wreckage seems to have eclipsed the area's title.

The show-info of the Talocan Structures and Habitats point solely to a physical form.

Unless evidence to the contrary illustrates that the normally cavern-dwelling Talocan turned on themselves to the point of oblivion, I'll at least keep the option of shared space open.

The Extraction Silo lists a residue that compares to nothing known in modern times, or even odd genetic combinations.

The Outpost Conduit on the other hand:
Quote:
Narrow tubes and electrical wiring fill the outpost conduit. Equal parts electrical artery and linking structure, the interior of this connecting structure is in disrepair, but it’s polyferrous hull keeps the ravages of space and time at bay.



I'd probably be looking to bend space with one of the Polestars, if I intended to use it as a Jump Drive that is, as its mass would exponentially increase. Although it would probably form spatial rifts, and there are those mysterious Dead Storms reported in Detorid

The commandeering of the wormhole network, wait how were they all found again?
Borascus
#10 - 2012-10-03 15:53:59 UTC
The number 514 is written in blood in the "visions" of the test subjects for the implants in the Chronicle 514. If the Sleeper consciousness is the cause, visions of blood would be persistant in their construct.

However, the reason to find an anomaly within a virtuality, using an AI to find it, is because it has normalized into the every day function of the Virtuality. If you needed to be somewhere, but had to move at a snail's pace, you'd need to be pretty dedicated. If you are looking at the room you are in, it's not really a question of why you are in the room, its the getting out.

Then again, if the answer to all your problems was enjoying yourself, you wouldn't need to go anywhere. You'd be happy enough.

In these changing times tho, comparable to the story of Period Basis you'd also need to make sure you didn't take the wrong turn.

A failsafe would be needed.

I have to say though, the number 514 could be as easy as needing security.
Wyke Mossari
Staner Industries
#11 - 2012-10-03 19:51:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Wyke Mossari
Regarding 514. Nothing really satisfactory but shared for elimination purposes.

514BC Persians under Darius go to war against the Scythians
514BC Pisistratos succeeded by the son of Hipparxos as tyrant of Athens and fell victim political conspiracy and assasination.
514BC Approximate Start of Celtic culture
514AD St Hormisdas elected as Pope succeeding Pope Sympowerus
514AD Birth of SAINT HORMISDAS

514 Squardon of RAF

Element Period : 5 Group 14: Tin

Genesis 5:14 "And all the days of Cainan were nine hundred and ten years: and he died."

Exodus 5:14 "And the officers of the children of Israel, which Pharaoh's taskmasters had set over them, were beaten, and demanded, Wherefore have ye not fulfilled your task in making brick both yesterday and to day, as heretofore"

Revelation 5:14 "And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever."