EVE General Discussion

Nothing more than cry for easy targets, Lol, do you know that you can still gank? But instead of cheap catalyst you need to fit more expensive (but still relative cheap) Talos or Tornado. And crimewatch? You comit a crime, you will be hunted. No more risk-free ganking. Bounty office will finaly have a purpose. Not as nowadays as ego advertising service.

Not going to go down this road.

For point friend, when you tell MinerMan that, you cut into HIS profits and he had to swallow the bad-pill while you had a risk-free, PROFITABLE venture.

I can understand your angst, but really, we're just seeing exact same from the OTHER SIDE of the coin.

You want your easy kills back and hide it under the guise of making profit. CCP gave the gankers a very nice run with a ship line customized for ganking: the Tier 3 Battlecruisers. Many of you "profited" during this period before the hammer came down because someone figured out an exploit to get max kills in a short period of time. Congrats to that person. Now you're back to having to work for the kills, but you complain. No Easy Button. So some few have figured out that if you get large gangs together, do some REAL intelligence work, and hit freighters, you can make a profit. Serious props there for doing something REAL. But that's too much work for those that choose to "profit" on easy kills in mining belts.

It's not about profit, so give me a break. It's about easy kills for a variety of reasons I leave you to think about. You want profit, but insist on easy kills? Go wardec some mining corps. Or join James666 or whatever in his 'leet mindset of bumping miners to brag about making money from them.

Edit: used "ban" up there when no ban happened (that I know of)

What changed are the options available to gankers due to the built-in tank of the new Exhumers.

There aren't any efficient options

Build-in tank? What advantage do they have againist any other ships out there? They have similiar basic HP as any other T1 cruiser/Tier3 BC and T2 versions have same resist bonuses as any other selected T2 ganking ship.

Yes they are. There are still dumb miners out there who fits expensive modules and no tank. One cheap fitted Talos will make shreds from them. Problem with pre-patch was that even ordinary T2 fitted barge was profitable for low cost catalyst ganker. So do your homework and fit one ship scaner and search for your piniata.

No more "random target" on icebelt and profit. Now its "search for your target" and profit.

you had the ultimate gank machine in the form of the tornado last winter so either stop whinning or learn how to put in some effort for your kills

Hahah, no.

A Mackinaw has at least 1k more base EHP than any HAC.
A Mackinaw has something like 5k more base EHP than any Recon.
A Mackinaw has about 1k more base EHP than any HIC.
A Mackinaw has about 4k more base EHP than any Logi.

That's not similar.

Nope. A Hulk tanked with simple T2/Meta mods could not be profitably ganked pre-buff.

What significant risk do miners who don't take any significant precautions against suicide ganks currently run?

How will that make the Skiff worthwhile?

Its job is the tanky ship, a job taken by the Mack

Retribution is all about balancing ships and what not, so why not balance out ganking a bit while you're at it? Over the last eight years, ganking has been nerfed nearly into the ground, with only a few select groups of highly skilled, well funded individuals continuing to separate stupid highsec mongoloids from their precious shiny things.