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I have an idea for Missiles that won't cause everyone to ragequit
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Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#21 - 2012-10-02 23:46:10 UTC
The funny part is you think most people are against the change.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-10-02 23:56:22 UTC
John Caligan wrote:


So for example:

Distance: 70-80 KM
Damage: 1/4 Normal Damage

Distance: 69-50 KM
Damage: 1/2 Normal Damage

Distance: 49-15 KM
Damage: Normal Damage

Distance: 14-6 KM
Damage: 2x Normal Damage

Distance: <6 KM
Damage: 4x Normal Damage




So at raelly short range, you get to be a one shot wonder of alpha?
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#23 - 2012-10-03 00:01:18 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
John Caligan wrote:


So for example:

Distance: 70-80 KM
Damage: 1/4 Normal Damage

Distance: 69-50 KM
Damage: 1/2 Normal Damage

Distance: 49-15 KM
Damage: Normal Damage

Distance: 14-6 KM
Damage: 2x Normal Damage

Distance: <6 KM
Damage: 4x Normal Damage




So at raelly short range, you get to be a one shot wonder of alpha?


He just wants to use rails and blasters with the same weapon module. Totally balanced and logical. Obviously, missiles use their warheads as fuel.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#24 - 2012-10-03 00:18:46 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:


So at raelly short range, you get to be a one shot wonder of alpha?


He just wants to use rails and blasters with the same weapon module. Totally balanced and logical. Obviously, missiles use their warheads as fuel.


Well technically, they could modify kinetic missile to ahve a little bit of extra range with lower damage since the missile should technically not stop existing when it run out fo fuel. Lower the speed gradually past the max flight tiem and the kinetic damage of the missile too.

But more importantly, could we fit a torpedo boat with full damage mods + MWD and open fire at ramming range for crazy gank power?
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#25 - 2012-10-03 00:21:10 UTC  |  Edited by: SmilingVagrant
Strangely it's the changes to drones that upset me more. They are going to become pretty much useless in PVE, and in PVP they were already kinda situational.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#26 - 2012-10-03 00:32:28 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Strangely it's the changes to drones that upset me more. They are going to become pretty much useless in PVE, and in PVP they were already kinda situational.

Nerfs for everyone ~

Buffs for miners and rats.

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Lord Ryan
True Xero
#27 - 2012-10-03 00:35:18 UTC
what leave e alone?

Do not assume anything above this line was typed by me. Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#28 - 2012-10-03 02:02:53 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Strangely it's the changes to drones that upset me more. They are going to become pretty much useless in PVE, and in PVP they were already kinda situational.

Egad, apparently I've missed something... Link?

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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2012-10-03 02:05:28 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Strangely it's the changes to drones that upset me more. They are going to become pretty much useless in PVE, and in PVP they were already kinda situational.

Egad, apparently I've missed something... Link?

I'm guessing changes to non sleeper/incursion NPC AI?
Anya Ohaya
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-10-03 06:55:26 UTC
Or just fit HAMs instead. God forbid you should have to use a short range weapon to deal high DPS.
Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2012-10-03 08:12:53 UTC
If you ragequit over the missile changes, chances are either you :
- Haven't read Fozzie's post thoroughly (like seriously, half of those are missile BUFFS ffs!)
- Don't understand what those numbers means, hence back to #1
- should quit anyways, like seriously?

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Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#32 - 2012-10-03 08:16:01 UTC
Jim Era wrote:
wat

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Cpt Gobla
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2012-10-03 08:17:40 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Jim Era wrote:
wat



What he said.


What she said.
knobber Jobbler
State War Academy
Caldari State
#34 - 2012-10-03 08:49:39 UTC
Missiles on a tengu should be effective. A fleet of them isn't a cheap undertaking and a loss significant. Nerf the Drake maybe but a missile change doesn't just affect 2 ships, but many.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#35 - 2012-10-03 11:37:58 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Strangely it's the changes to drones that upset me more. They are going to become pretty much useless in PVE, and in PVP they were already kinda situational.


Is somebody drinking from the Dinsdale Pirrannnhaa Kool-aid?

Drones aren't changing. Lazy drone users might have to though.

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#36 - 2012-10-03 11:59:06 UTC
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Strangely it's the changes to drones that upset me more. They are going to become pretty much useless in PVE, and in PVP they were already kinda situational.

Egad, apparently I've missed something... Link?

I'm guessing changes to non sleeper/incursion NPC AI?

Oh that.

From what we have seen so far NPC AI aggression vs your drones will be "slightly" higher than it is now. I don't think anybody is really going to know if this is going to be a serious issue until we can do a little testing. We should have plenty of time to ask for adjustments if needed before it goes live.

I'm much more focused on hoping the drone interface and controls get a revamp, to make drone use as quick and easy as other weapons systems are to use.

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Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#37 - 2012-10-03 15:46:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Xindi Kraid
The issue is people don't use logic when CCP does something that people interpret as a nerf to their ship.
I had an argument with some corp members (us being a WH corp, most everyone flies tengus, including me), and the example I used regarding how powerful HML tengus are is, despite this character having better gunnery skills, my Tengu aproaches the range and damage of my Naga which uses battleship guns (worse when the ship came out I found it wasn't worth it till I got T2 guns, the HMLs in the tengu out-damage meta 4 450 rails.). The response I got bacl was that HMLs were obviously balanced then since they were doing similar range and damage to rails (both being long range weapons) totally ignoring that ome weapon system is for cruisers and the other is usually reserved for battleships.

I won't claim railguns to be the best weapon even after the buff, but damn.
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#38 - 2012-10-04 21:34:17 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Perhaps instead you could stop complaining about the inbound missile buffs and try a bit harder to actually understand them.



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