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Ryaath Stormbringer
Slackerz United
#1 - 2012-10-02 14:20:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Ryaath Stormbringer
Hello,

I up until a few days ago, was antaire Riggers. i Have been providing high quality teamspeak, mumble, jabber, dedicated server (for alliance lvl forums/killboards/ts3/jabber, or anything else you could use a dedicated server for) forum/kb/ website hosting.

I have not had a unhappy customer yet.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=158793&find=unread <-- new ts3 thread with link to old in post.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1789918#post1789918 <--- link to dedicated server thread.

Basically because of demand I have decided to move this to a corp level operation. I will be hiring staff, to keep up with orders, payments, setups, etc.



I am in-game now, and really need to speak with someone soon about this..

If anyone if interested in investing in a long lasting, proven profitable in game eve business convo me..

I recently spent a ton of isk on having a automated website built for all my products.. So new customers or old can log into site view the status of their server, make changes, pay bills, sign up for new service (which is an api pull method, so even if i'm not online the server still gets setup and a mail gets sent with info as soon as api shows payment.

We have plans of having the website in development to be the one stop source for all of your out of game needs. Think godaddy website but eve style and you would be paying with isk not RL money. You will be able to choose from pre selected bundled plans, create your own, add or remove services. Be able to quickly modify the way your forums killboard etc looks and performs.

And i will have the support staff to support and maintain everything.

I currently pull in a income of 100 bil a year, from the services and clients i currently offer.
about 50% of that 100 bil, 50 is yearly payments, about 14 or 15 bil is every month, every and 6 account for the rest.

Once the website goes live, i project that yearly number will double within 3 months just because of the ease of use, being ablt to create your own package and pay and know that no matter what in 30 minuets or less, your services will be ready, and set up.

I am Awaiting a few bigger monthly payments that are due any day now, so the 10 bil loan is more realistically going to be a week. I will still pay the percentage for the month though. I just like to pay my bills as soon as i can so i dont have to worry about them.

I think somewhere in the 8-12% area is acceptable.





Anyways i hope to hear from some people soon.
Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
#2 - 2012-10-02 15:26:29 UTC
Do you have anything you could use as collateral? Ships, blueprints, minerals, etc?

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Ryaath Stormbringer
Slackerz United
#3 - 2012-10-02 15:34:33 UTC
Grendell wrote:
Do you have anything you could use as collateral? Ships, blueprints, minerals, etc?


Unfortunately nothing even remarkable close to that value and the stuff i do have is spread all over. I do however have my eve business on the line with this one.. can make a post on my official thread etc. I'm sure that has to count for something.. I'm putting my reputation on the line.. And if you read my posts.. you can tell i treat my clients good and have happy customers.
Darrien Hawkins
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-10-02 17:46:28 UTC
You mention in the OP that your first character was Antaire Riggers. I did a little digging through that characters post history and found that while someone attempted to sell the character repeatedly, the posts (as of now) seem to suggest that a deal was never struck and a transfer never took place.

The fact that the new owner of the character can edit the previous owners posts means that this type of thing can be very hard to track. It might be helpful if you clarified exactly when the character was sold and in what thread. I would also suggest that you make it crystal clear to all of your business partners (edit it into the OP of your service thread) that the character was sold and no longer represents you or your business in any way. (I am aware it is against the rules to misrepresent yourself as the previous owner, even so, better to nip something like that in the bud before it even has a chance to happen)

While I don't think this reflects negatively or positively on your loan offering (It would make sense to sell one of your characters if you needed capital), this type of thing may make potential investors a little leary. Transparency would go a long way to putting those fears to rest.
Ryaath Stormbringer
Slackerz United
#5 - 2012-10-02 18:32:24 UTC
Darrien Hawkins wrote:
You mention in the OP that your first character was Antaire Riggers. I did a little digging through that characters post history and found that while someone attempted to sell the character repeatedly, the posts (as of now) seem to suggest that a deal was never struck and a transfer never took place.

The fact that the new owner of the character can edit the previous owners posts means that this type of thing can be very hard to track. It might be helpful if you clarified exactly when the character was sold and in what thread. I would also suggest that you make it crystal clear to all of your business partners (edit it into the OP of your service thread) that the character was sold and no longer represents you or your business in any way. (I am aware it is against the rules to misrepresent yourself as the previous owner, even so, better to nip something like that in the bud before it even has a chance to happen)

While I don't think this reflects negatively or positively on your loan offering (It would make sense to sell one of your characters if you needed capital), this type of thing may make potential investors a little leary. Transparency would go a long way to putting those fears to rest.



Well here is the thread https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=156977 he edited and is retrying to resale for a higher value...

I have posted on it and am reporting him.

18753062 9/27/2012 5:32:18 PM CreditCard 1 x EVE Character Transfer $20.00 Paid
Antaire Riggers
Shadow Legion X
Seriously Suspicious
#6 - 2012-10-02 21:03:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Antaire Riggers
I am keeping the toon and I can confirm he sold it. Also as i made a new thread and did not pretend to be u, i did nothing wrong. also got mails from ur clients which i confirmed this toon was sold. if i was trying to pretend to be a scrub from a goon pet, i would have lied to ur customers.



also what did u do with the isk u got from me. this is a bit odd. <--- depending on ur answer

i will invest 1b isk only if u get this loan filled


Also since u sold the toon to me, i have been getting quite a lot of complaints about the server being down. How you fixing this issue?????

fyi- i was offered 3b more than i paid for it, but decided to keep it.


Update

Since i have access to the wallet. here is a few question u left with about 33b isk on the 27th, what have u done with that isk. I am guessing u had more isk with ur other alt, becuase before i gave u 25b, all u had was around 8b


Also looking at you player donation history, you were basically donating isk to sommer the betting site, a ton of times.

the money u put into ur SOMMER accounts outshines any isk u got put into ur account by ur clients. <--How do you explain this.

your income seems to come form SOMMER


you seem to never have more than 17b untill i gave u 25b for ur time. this all seems strange, unless u claim ur getting all ur clients payments on ur other alts


in my view, untill u answer some of these question, all this seems to strange an investment with no collateral.
flakeys
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-10-03 11:57:17 UTC
This is getting a nice spin on it Blink

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Ryaath Stormbringer
Slackerz United
#8 - 2012-10-03 13:06:46 UTC
I actually dont need this anymore, and my clients would post bad things on my threads if they were not happy, 2nd you don't know how many client i have, how much isk income i have, other things i have cooking in game, etc as to where my isk is and what its being used for. As far as i'm concerned what i do with my isk is my business not yours @ antaire. Your simply a person who bought a great toon.

I might open this up to investors at a later time but for now i dont need any, nor i guess i dont want any because then i would have to share profits.

The 10 bil loan i was asking for @ 10% interest was gathered on my own + another 12 billion from monthly payments.. If someone had loaned me the 10 bil when i needed it they would have had a instant return of 11 bil within 5 hours... If that is not a pretty good deal then i dont know what is..

But thanks for reply's commentts etc..

As of now Slackerz united will not be open for investing. I may howver make it open to my long term clients so they can get some returns every month.
De Guillaume
THORN Syndicate
Northern Coalition.
#9 - 2012-10-03 13:44:04 UTC
so basically u came here asking for a loan with no collteral. Clearly someone asked you valid question and you can't answer them so you close the loan request.

You go on to make a silly claim that someone could have made 1b in 5hrs, if that was the case why ask for a month loan. You seem to have been caught on a ton of lies and deception.

Only a fool would invest in you from what I am seeing here. you should have defended yourself.

Has you ever went so far as chose to go even use want to look more like do?
Ryaath Stormbringer
Slackerz United
#10 - 2012-10-03 13:52:09 UTC
De Guillaume wrote:
so basically u came here asking for a loan with no collteral. Clearly someone asked you valid question and you can't answer them so you close the loan request.

You go on to make a silly claim that someone could have made 1b in 5hrs, if that was the case why ask for a month loan. You seem to have been caught on a ton of lies and deception.

Only a fool would invest in you from what I am seeing here. you should have defended yourself.



What am i supposed to defend against? the guy who bought my old toon and is pissed because i reported him for attempting to be me ?

and i'm no longer asking for a 10 bil loan..

I have had many request from investors looking to invest. clearly people do think this is a good investment opportunity.

But kind sir if you point out what you want me to defend myself against i will do so !

* i stated to all lenders who shot me in game mails or convo's that i have never asked for a loan before and i though that the current was 1 month around 8-12% interest. I also stated that the loan would most likely be filled no longer than 2 weeks, but would still pay the 8 - 12% interest even if i paid it back same day.. I think something like that is even posted in the Origional post on this thread,
Ryaath Stormbringer
Slackerz United
#11 - 2012-10-03 13:56:48 UTC
Ryaath Stormbringer wrote:


I am Awaiting a few bigger monthly payments that are due any day now, so the 10 bil loan is more realistically going to be a week. I will still pay the percentage for the month though. I just like to pay my bills as soon as i can so i dont have to worry about them.

I think somewhere in the 8-12% area is acceptable.



ahh there it is
Ryaath Stormbringer
Slackerz United
#12 - 2012-10-03 13:58:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Ryaath Stormbringer
De Guillaume wrote:
so basically u came here asking for a loan with no collteral. Clearly someone asked you valid question and you can't answer them so you close the loan request.

You go on to make a silly claim that someone could have made 1b in 5hrs, if that was the case why ask for a month loan. You seem to have been caught on a ton of lies and deception.

Only a fool would invest in you from what I am seeing here. you should have defended yourself.



I'm also very very curious to these lies and deception i got caught in ? can you clarify ?

Or is it that people just read a few lines of a post then decide to start trolling, making themselves sound stupid and ignorant ?
flakeys
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-10-03 14:44:02 UTC
What he is refering to that you ask for a loan and ''all of a sudden'' it's filled immediatly after someone asks some questions he has proof of in his API record if needed.


Basically i think he said what most of us , me included , immediatly thought when you gave the ''no need any more for loan i haz load of iskies now and you'd have too if you had invested''.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Dethmourne Silvermane
Silvermane Holdings LTD
#14 - 2012-10-03 15:04:42 UTC
:popcorn:

Interested Party (TM)
David Forge
GameOn Inc.
#15 - 2012-10-03 16:14:30 UTC
I was promised a thread about a "legitimate" business. My expedition for the elusive (possibly even illusive) beast continues.
Antaire Riggers
Shadow Legion X
Seriously Suspicious
#16 - 2012-10-03 16:21:32 UTC
dude how am i upset when i confirmed u sold this toon to me. how is that me being mad,Big smile

seems u just got caught out and yeah very odd how u filled 10b after i called u out Blink
De Guillaume
THORN Syndicate
Northern Coalition.
#17 - 2012-10-03 16:26:12 UTC
Ryaath Stormbringer wrote:
Ryaath Stormbringer wrote:


I am Awaiting a few bigger monthly payments that are due any day now, so the 10 bil loan is more realistically going to be a week. I will still pay the percentage for the month though. I just like to pay my bills as soon as i can so i dont have to worry about them.

I think somewhere in the 8-12% area is acceptable.



ahh there it is



do u know who promises free isk.Arrow scammers.


why didn't u just ask for 1 week for 5%

i hope u have learned ur lesson, don't come asking for a lot of isk half assed. do some work, answer some question. without full collateral, i think you just ruined any reputation for any loans in the future.

Has you ever went so far as chose to go even use want to look more like do?
Ryaath Stormbringer
Slackerz United
#18 - 2012-10-03 17:26:24 UTC
De Guillaume wrote:
Ryaath Stormbringer wrote:
Ryaath Stormbringer wrote:


I am Awaiting a few bigger monthly payments that are due any day now, so the 10 bil loan is more realistically going to be a week. I will still pay the percentage for the month though. I just like to pay my bills as soon as i can so i dont have to worry about them.

I think somewhere in the 8-12% area is acceptable.



ahh there it is



do u know who promises free isk.Arrow scammers.


why didn't u just ask for 1 week for 5%

i hope u have learned ur lesson, don't come asking for a lot of isk half assed. do some work, answer some question. without full collateral, i think you just ruined any reputation for any loans in the future.



AS also stated in my responses i have never asked for a loan.. so i didnt know 1 week @ 5% was an option. 2nd i was not 100% sure i would have been able to get the isk back within one week. so the month option was a little better for me.

3rd i will never ask for a loan again, Antaire you didnt post on my thread and then all of a sudden the 10 bil was made.. it happened way before your post... and not from investors or loans...

4th. I don't really care what your opinions are whomever you may be.. if you dont want to talk to me about invesment opportunities then dont post at all..

5th. i am only allowing a certain amount of investors in my first (IPO) opening. 10 investors 1bil min investment for 1 share, though the first IPO will be 10 billion, with only 10 slots for investors.

6th. This thread has completely gone off topic because of a few random misguided posts... (BTw all of which i have answered with legit reasons)

So in closing like i said earlier people who want to make money off a real stock selling in game business, that generates tons of isk through 12/9/6/3/ and 1 month payment plans.

I run this in game business because i do this for a living in RL, so i already own the equipment, the bandwidth etc, so everything is entirely profit.

I have 100 or so clients as it is, and that number is growing rapidly on a daily basis.

tl;dr : i made the 10 bil i was looking for in loan format yesterday within 5 hours from new clients sign-ups alone.
also once again if you dont have anything good to say dont post it at all..
Ryaath Stormbringer
Slackerz United
#19 - 2012-10-03 17:38:11 UTC
Antaire Riggers wrote:
I am keeping the toon and I can confirm he sold it. Also as i made a new thread and did not pretend to be u, i did nothing wrong. also got mails from ur clients which i confirmed this toon was sold. if i was trying to pretend to be a scrub from a goon pet, i would have lied to ur customers.



also what did u do with the isk u got from me. this is a bit odd. <--- depending on ur answer

i will invest 1b isk only if u get this loan filled


Also since u sold the toon to me, i have been getting quite a lot of complaints about the server being down. How you fixing this issue?????

fyi- i was offered 3b more than i paid for it, but decided to keep it.


Update

Since i have access to the wallet. here is a few question u left with about 33b isk on the 27th, what have u done with that isk. I am guessing u had more isk with ur other alt, becuase before i gave u 25b, all u had was around 8b


Also looking at you player donation history, you were basically donating isk to sommer the betting site, a ton of times.

the money u put into ur SOMMER accounts outshines any isk u got put into ur account by ur clients. <--How do you explain this.

your income seems to come form SOMMER


you seem to never have more than 17b untill i gave u 25b for ur time. this all seems strange, unless u claim ur getting all ur clients payments on ur other alts


in my view, untill u answer some of these question, all this seems to strange an investment with no collateral.


As to this posting...

yes i gamble on somer blink. 10 of billions goes through my wallet on a daily basis from me to blink and blink to me vice versa.. on my blink page it states i have uploaded 120 bil isk with a profit of 312 billion made i can promise you that i have not u0ploaded 120 billion of my isk, i win items cash out resend to blink for the achievements and extra blink credit and whatnot.

but honestly that's none of your business, nor something you should just throw out there for everyone to see.... what i do with my isk is my business, end of story.

All investors will have access to the investor wallet on a website to see the funds and what their being used for etc. Now that is peoples business, or should i say the investors business.

Same thing as going to a investment firm and saying to your investment broker "hey i hacked into your accounts and your personal bank account you spend tons of money, how did you get this much and i gave you this much and did you have another account you used and blah blah blah, how can i trust you to invest my money, if you spend alot of money yourself"

Well the ans is its his money he can do whatever he wants with it.. nor is it any of your business nor your concern.

I am not asking people to invest in me.. i am asking people to invest in a in game company.
JohnathanGalt
Northern Sky Industries
#20 - 2012-10-03 17:49:20 UTC
Ryaath Stormbringer wrote:


yes i gamble on somer blink. 10 of billions goes through my wallet on a daily basis from me to blink and blink to me vice versa.. on my blink page it states i have uploaded 120 bil isk with a profit of 312 billion made i can promise you that i have not u0ploaded 120 billion of my isk, i win items cash out resend to blink for the achievements and extra blink credit and whatnot.

but honestly that's none of your business, nor something you should just throw out there for everyone to see.... what i do with my isk is my business, end of story.

All investors will have access to the investor wallet on a website to see the funds and what their being used for etc. Now that is peoples business, or should i say the investors business.

Same thing as going to a investment firm and saying to your investment broker "hey i hacked into your accounts and your personal bank account you spend tons of money, how did you get this much and i gave you this much and did you have another account you used and blah blah blah, how can i trust you to invest my money, if you spend alot of money yourself"

Well the ans is its his money he can do whatever he wants with it.. nor is it any of your business nor your concern.




I think you fail to see what the purpose of the MD community is. It is to vet possible investment opportunities, so that the community can make informed decisions regarding investments. I don't care that you gamble on the SOMER website, I care that if I invested money with you, it might be used to feed a gambling hobby. It is absolutely relevant.

Your analogy is a total fail. In real life the investment banker cannot easily transfer funds from your investment with him to his personal account. In EVE they are essentially the same thing. You and your "company" are essentially the same as far as the MD community is concerned. That is why it is relevant. I am sure you are worth many times my net worth, so in no way am I ripping on you, or your business ability. I am just letting you know why it went this way for you in the MD community, that is all.
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