EVE General Discussion

You left out SWG, where BH was actually good. MBH for near five years, too bad they gradually screwed up the game. I've always wanted to see something similar in EVE, administered by CONCORD to inflict player justice upon criminals or some sort, and with such tracking tools similar to SWG along with a skill tree. Oh well, I thunk it up when I were sober ;)

The bounty system will always be a classic example of the most all-encompassing and primal EvE metagame: Players vs CCP.

CCP makes systems, Players break them. CCP fixes system, Players claim it's now "broken" (irony) until they can find a new way to break it again. Exploit fixes get called "game breakers" and anything done to correct an imbalance is called a "nerf." How the developers have put up with so many years of this mindlessly destructive mentality is beyond me.

"Risk free"? Are suicide gankers all such nugatory PvPers that attacking them is a zero risk activity?

Let me list the advantages you would have going after the blind killright victim.
1. You get to chose time and place.
2. You get to know what ship they're flying.
3. You get to check what fit they're running.
4. You get to chose the starting range.
5. You get the first shot.
6. You get to abandon your attempt if you've spooked your target.
7. 1, 4,5,6 are all mechanically enforced.

Tell me, with all that stacked against you, could you win? Could anyone?

Meanie!

...and yes, posting is what we do around here, so it's rather to be expected.

if I'd tell you this wouldn't be a good tease!

CCP Punkturis? Trolling? That's unpossible!

I will wait to see what CCP has come up with, however I pretty much agree with your point. Any bounty system suffers from the same weakness shared by any "lock and key" system, be it a physical lock or a DRM scheme buried in a lot of encrypted goobledegook. You can do whatever you want to obfuscate, but at the end of the day if you allow user "X" to open the lock, then users "Y" and "Z" will also be able to open the lock if they have the right key/code/password/etc.

Therefore if any player can claim a bounty, then an alt can also claim a bounty, since it is impossible for CCP to prove who I am friends with or who is working for me.

The only system I could imagine as working is if the person who is hunted has absolutely no idea that a price is on their head, and if the person offering the reward can limit it to a specific person/corp when placing the bounty. But that still doesn't stop people from scamming, like a popular bounty-hunter corp could for example offer to split the bounties with the wanted people, in exchange for letting themselves be killed.

Meanwhile, let me list the advantages the killright victim has over the gank victim:

1) Only the guy with the killright can attack him
2) He can be in any ship he likes, presumably one that's PvP capable
3) He's likely to be in the company of other PvPers who may be willing to assist him eg with logistics, bumping or even suicide ganking
4) He's unlikely to have expensive fittings, and won't necessarily be in a T2 ship.
5) He knows that there are killrights on him, and has a specific reason to be alert for a known period of time

Forgot to mention
8. You keep your ship afterwards, so you're free to use any ship and fitting combination without regards to cost.
9. Your victim doesn't get to know you're hunting them. This is mechanically enforced.