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Buff Ganking--Nevermind, Nerfed Again

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captain foivos
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-10-02 06:31:57 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
Update: CCP has once again shat on ganking in order to turn highsec into a risk-free carebear paradise.

Retribution is all about balancing ships and what not, so why not balance out ganking a bit while you're at it? Over the last eight years, ganking has been nerfed nearly into the ground, with only a few select groups of highly skilled, well funded individuals continuing to separate stupid highsec mongoloids from their precious shiny things. Why not buff immoral activity for a change? Reward smart people for taking basic precautions against dying and loss, like not traveling around with billions in their hold, not clicking on the contracts in Jita local, and not traveling the Rancer Pipe with hundreds of PLEX in the cargo bay.

Ganking keeps getting hit with more and more nerfs: pretty soon there won't be that "cold harsh universe" left that CCP keeps going on about in their promos. EVE belongs to the violent, the venal, and the brilliant. Buff ganking. Nerf dumb people.
Kehro Urgus
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-10-02 06:38:03 UTC
A new and exciting topic. My mind is refreshed. Ugh

Yeeee! 
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#3 - 2012-10-02 06:41:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Roll Sizzle Beef
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Do this, but I have no clue as to how it could be done that wouldn't negate said effort in ship balancing. Soo snap to it, chop chop.


Thank you, you are a guiding light in these dark times.
Samoth Egnoled
Caldari Provisions
#4 - 2012-10-02 07:21:19 UTC
I'm not the how guy, im the ideas man...
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#5 - 2012-10-02 07:22:36 UTC
They did buff ganking.
You used to be able to kill miners solo. Now you need a fleet.
Josef Djugashvilis
#6 - 2012-10-02 07:50:54 UTC
captain foivos wrote:
Retribution is all about balancing ships and what not, so why not balance out ganking a bit while you're at it? Over the last eight years, ganking has been nerfed nearly into the ground, with only a few select groups of highly skilled, well funded individuals continuing to separate stupid highsec mongoloids from their precious shiny things. Why not buff immoral activity for a change? Reward smart people for taking basic precautions against dying and loss, like not traveling around with billions in their hold, not clicking on the contracts in Jita local, and not traveling the Rancer Pipe with hundreds of PLEX in the cargo bay.

Ganking keeps getting hit with more and more nerfs: pretty soon there won't be that "cold harsh universe" left that CCP keeps going on about in their promos. EVE belongs to the violent, the venal, and the brilliant. Buff ganking. Nerf dumb people.


Anyone who uses the word 'mongoloid' to describe other players, is too young/immature to play Eve.

Also, posting in yet another 'pixel hardman' thread. Yawn.

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lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#7 - 2012-10-02 07:56:59 UTC
I have a good idea for you shutting the **** up and going to nullsec or lowsec.

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TharOkha
0asis Group
#8 - 2012-10-02 08:54:40 UTC
captain foivos wrote:

ganking has been nerfed nearly into the ground, with only a few select groups of highly skilled, well funded individuals
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So are you saying that ganking 300m ship with cheap 2m T1 ship in few days old alt was balanced?

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Reward smart people for taking basic precautions against dying and loss


They are already rewarded... by not getting shot


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pretty soon there won't be that "cold harsh universe" left that CCP keeps going on about in their promos.


low/null/wh is that way Arrow


Quote:
EVE belongs to the violent


EVE belongs to every player

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Nerf dumb people


They are already. They are ganked every day.

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Silk daShocka
Greasy Hair Club
#9 - 2012-10-02 09:34:19 UTC
Risk/reward.

Ganking may have a risk with next expansion, it always had rewards. No buff needed.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#10 - 2012-10-02 09:42:50 UTC
captain foivos wrote:
Retribution is all about balancing ships and what not, so why not balance out ganking a bit while you're at it? Over the last eight years, ganking has been nerfed nearly into the ground, with only a few select groups of highly skilled, well funded individuals continuing to separate stupid highsec mongoloids from their precious shiny things. Why not buff immoral activity for a change? Reward smart people for taking basic precautions against dying and loss, like not traveling around with billions in their hold, not clicking on the contracts in Jita local, and not traveling the Rancer Pipe with hundreds of PLEX in the cargo bay.

Ganking keeps getting hit with more and more nerfs: pretty soon there won't be that "cold harsh universe" left that CCP keeps going on about in their promos. EVE belongs to the violent, the venal, and the brilliant. Buff ganking. Nerf dumb people.



I suggest a bigg increase in destroyer DPS, and a new range of battlecruisers than can fit 8 bonused large guns. That ought to do it.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

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John Ratcliffe
Tradors'R'us
IChooseYou Alliance
#11 - 2012-10-02 10:09:35 UTC
captain foivos wrote:
Retribution is all about balancing ships and what not, so why not balance out ganking a bit while you're at it? Over the last eight years, ganking has been nerfed nearly into the ground, with only a few select groups of highly skilled, well funded individuals continuing to separate stupid highsec mongoloids from their precious shiny things. Why not buff immoral activity for a change? Reward smart people for taking basic precautions against dying and loss, like not traveling around with billions in their hold, not clicking on the contracts in Jita local, and not traveling the Rancer Pipe with hundreds of PLEX in the cargo bay.

Ganking keeps getting hit with more and more nerfs: pretty soon there won't be that "cold harsh universe" left that CCP keeps going on about in their promos. EVE belongs to the violent, the venal, and the brilliant. Buff ganking. Nerf dumb people.


Stupid OP is stupid.

The only way I would agree with this is if Hi-Sec was made completely 100% safe. No ganking, no griefing, no spamming, no scamming - nothing. Let Null & Low-Sec be the Wild West.

Care Bears should be able to mission away to their little hearts are content in completely safety, free from the actions of dicks that just want to f*ck them over.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#12 - 2012-10-02 10:12:26 UTC
Titans should be able to gank in hi sec.

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Silk daShocka
Greasy Hair Club
#13 - 2012-10-02 10:15:56 UTC
rodyas wrote:
Titans should be able to gank in hi sec.


This would open up alot of opportunities for a salavaging career I would imagine.

Not like I can say I've had the luxury of salvaging a titan wreck though myself, so just guessin
Pipa Porto
#14 - 2012-10-02 11:24:28 UTC
TharOkha wrote:
So are you saying that ganking 300m ship with cheap 2m T1 ship in few days old alt was balanced?
Given that that ship's owner chose not to fit any sort of tank in order to make that possible, sure it is.

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They are already rewarded... by not getting shot

No they're not. People who take no precautions are safe and people who take precautions are not safer.

They take precautions and are no better off for it than the people who take no precautions.

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low/null/wh is that way Arrow


Where does CCP say "except HS" in the tagline?

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They are already. They are ganked every day.


Not so much. They used to be, but then CCP decided to put them in swaddling clothes.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Apoctasy
GentIeman Bastards
Something Really Pretentious
#15 - 2012-10-02 12:25:14 UTC
OP it is more than possible to suicide gank without being "select groups of highly skilled, well funded individuals"

Learn to gank properly and quit crying to CCP for help
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#16 - 2012-10-02 12:27:48 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
TharOkha wrote:
captain foivos wrote:

ganking has been nerfed nearly into the ground, with only a few select groups of highly skilled, well funded individuals
.


So are you saying that ganking 300m ship with cheap 2m T1 ship in few days old alt was balanced?



Yes.

Things are not balanced by cost of the hull and if you fit zero tank then why should you survive?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#17 - 2012-10-02 12:29:50 UTC
John Ratcliffe wrote:


Stupid OP is stupid.

The only way I would agree with this is if Hi-Sec was made completely 100% safe. No ganking, no griefing, no spamming, no scamming - nothing. Let Null & Low-Sec be the Wild West.

Care Bears should be able to mission away to their little hearts are content in completely safety, free from the actions of dicks that just want to f*ck them over.


You are playing the wrong game.
John Ratcliffe
Tradors'R'us
IChooseYou Alliance
#18 - 2012-10-02 12:30:44 UTC
baltec1 wrote:


Yes.

Things are not balanced by cost of the hull.


They should be.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
Pipa Porto
#19 - 2012-10-02 12:34:09 UTC
John Ratcliffe wrote:
baltec1 wrote:


Yes.

Things are not balanced by cost of the hull.


They should be.


Why in gods name should things be balanced based on the price that a fluid and player driven market gives them?

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#20 - 2012-10-02 12:35:47 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
John Ratcliffe wrote:
baltec1 wrote:


Yes.

Things are not balanced by cost of the hull.


They should be.


Why in gods name should things be balanced based on the price that a fluid and player driven market gives them?


Because this gentleman is butthurt.

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