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King Rothgar
Deadly Solutions
#1 - 2012-10-02 00:57:32 UTC
I've been toying with dictors a bit lately and can fly all 4 of them. The trouble is, the sabre seems to be the only one that can be fit in a sensible way. Current sabre fit is this:

[Sabre, solo]
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Medium Shield Extender II

200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe

Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I

I'm quite happy with this setup. It's quick enough to burn out and decloak people for scram/web, has good dps and a light but useful tank. It's also quite nimble. But I am trying to cut myself down to amarr only so I'd like to use the heretic instead. The trouble is, although the slot layout is good and so are the bonuses, I'm running into a brick wall in terms of PG/CPU. What I'd like to fit is this:

[Heretic, test]
Damage Control II
Centii C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating
400mm Reinforced Steel Plates II

Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Rocket
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe

Small Trimark Armor Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I

The trouble is, this is way over on both CPU and PG. Even with an AB it's still over. If this fit, I think it would be a solid alternative to the sabre I currently use. It has less dps and speed, but greater tank and range. Seems like a fair trade but as said, this just doesn't fit. So any thoughts?

BTW, planned use is solo or duo with skirmish links. I looked at an MSE fit as well but it ended up being nothing more than a bad sabre.

[u]Fireworks and snowballs are great, but what I really want is a corpse launcher.[/u]
King Rothgar
Deadly Solutions
#2 - 2012-10-02 04:49:16 UTC
38 views and not even someone telling me to stfu noob and fly a sabre?

[u]Fireworks and snowballs are great, but what I really want is a corpse launcher.[/u]
Belthazor4011
Battle BV Redux
#3 - 2012-10-02 05:09:42 UTC
[Heretic, New Setup 1]
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Upgraded 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Rocket
Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Small Core Defense Field Extender I

Maybe? But yeah Sabre is better.
King Rothgar
Deadly Solutions
#4 - 2012-10-02 05:11:21 UTC
That's basically what I came up with for it, but then it's just a gimped saber.

[u]Fireworks and snowballs are great, but what I really want is a corpse launcher.[/u]
Whisperen
Resilience.
The Initiative.
#5 - 2012-10-02 05:37:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Whisperen
You need a cloak on a LIC drop the scram for a web.

[Heretic, Pitchatent]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Overdrive Injector System II

Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II

Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Rocket
Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe
Prototype Cloaking Device I

Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Auxiliary Thrusters I
King Rothgar
Deadly Solutions
#6 - 2012-10-02 06:23:57 UTC
Seriously? And I thought I was having trouble finding a decent fit for it. Lol

[u]Fireworks and snowballs are great, but what I really want is a corpse launcher.[/u]
Sjugar
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-10-02 22:11:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Sjugar
[Heretic, probe launcher]
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II

1MN Digital Booster Rockets
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Medium Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I

Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe
Expanded Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I

There ya go, a dictor that can probe down and land right on the enemy fleet, priceless. You might want to fit a cloak also that you offline when you online the launcher.
King Rothgar
Deadly Solutions
#8 - 2012-10-03 01:46:47 UTC
Sjugar, thank you for replying to my original post without even bothering to read it.Roll

[u]Fireworks and snowballs are great, but what I really want is a corpse launcher.[/u]
Jude Lloyd
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-10-03 04:12:04 UTC
The responses in this thread are horrifying.

Ill look through my fits tonight and see if I have mine from a while back.

I'm back!
Jude Lloyd
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-10-03 04:15:14 UTC
Also, have you considered the fitting implants? They have done wonders for me.

I'm back!
King Rothgar
Deadly Solutions
#11 - 2012-10-03 09:22:18 UTC
Normally I try to avoid them but yeah, I have.

[u]Fireworks and snowballs are great, but what I really want is a corpse launcher.[/u]
Danny John-Peter
The Congregation
RAPID HEAVY ROPERS
#12 - 2012-10-03 12:47:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Danny John-Peter
DISCLAIMER; These fits are for bubbling, and not insta-dieing, nothing else.

[Heretic, Tripple Bubble + Cloak]
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II

Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II

Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe
Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe
Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
Prototype Cloaking Device I
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I

Hilarious Triple bubble + Cloak fit.


[Heretic, Dual Bubble + Cloak]
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II
Internal Force Field Array I

Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II

Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe
Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe
Prototype Cloaking Device I
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I

Double bubble + Cloak, awesome tank.

[Heretic, Tripple Bubble]
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II
Internal Force Field Array I

Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Medium Shield Extender II

Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe
Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe
Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I

Tribubble with more tank.


As for a solo fit, I think a mate of mine used this;

[Heretic, Armour Bubbles]
400mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Internal Force Field Array I
Adaptive Nano Plating II

Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
Initiated Harmonic Warp Scrambler I
'Langour' Drive Disruptor I

Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Bay Loading Accelerator I
King Rothgar
Deadly Solutions
#13 - 2012-10-03 13:28:42 UTC
I'm mostly interested in solo/duo type stuff, so the last one is it. Fairly pathetic that you have to drop to a couple of t1 launchers due to PG/CPU. I'm really not happy with that. I'll keep toying in eft to see if I can squeeze something out. CCP seroiusly needs to rework the dictors though, it's unbelievable that the sabre is so easy to fit when all the others trip over themselves with PG/CPU restrictions.

[u]Fireworks and snowballs are great, but what I really want is a corpse launcher.[/u]
Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#14 - 2012-10-03 13:40:06 UTC
Skip amarr, go caldari? You'll use missile instead of rockets, have no CPU issues, and be even better post winter expansion when changes are made to the small launchers.

Just a thought that might save you some headaches. The heretic looks great but is one if the worst dictors to fit.
Sjugar
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-10-03 16:39:48 UTC
King Rothgar wrote:
Sjugar, thank you for replying to my original post without even bothering to read it.Roll

Sorry, but you want your heretic to be a sabre.
In the current state there are 2 types of dictors: Sabres and the rest. You use sabres for solo and small gang, because they're effective at that and fun to fly.
You use the rest for fleetwork because then your dps doesn't matter, only your ability to catch people with your bubbles and scram and the fact that non-sabre dictors are a lot cheaper then sabres makes them ideal for that role.
Skelee VI
Appetite 4 Destruction
#16 - 2012-10-03 19:51:27 UTC
the only good reason to fly heretic is if u don't want to blow the isky on a sabre!
Sabre is the only dic worth flying if u want to do anything more than pop a bubble