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What ship in the EVE universe, is the USS Enterprise the equivalent of ?
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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#41 - 2012-10-01 19:43:40 UTC
Riedle wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
The Enterprise is a science and exploration wessel. Albeit a very heavily armed one.


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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#42 - 2012-10-01 19:57:52 UTC
Come on guys, the Enterprise was clearly a large shuttle. in episode 303 when Luke Skywalker attacked Voltron and Captain Kirk needed to drop off the tribbles, He used the Enterprise D to ferry donuts back to the Galactica so that they could fuel the reactors and defeat Doctor Who and Data. These are facts.

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Alara IonStorm
#43 - 2012-10-01 20:03:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Telegram Sam wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:

The USS Enterprise is 340m by 80m (max) and carries a complement of up to around 6,000. They don't call them floating cities for nothing.

But 5,990 of those people are redundant. The whole ship can be run by just 10 people: Kirk, Spock, Bones, Scotty, Uhuru, Sulu, Chekhov, and Nurse Chapell. Them, plus two anonymous security guys to get chomped or vaporized on the more dangerous planets.

What kind of Aircraft Carrier are you talking about?

Wait... You didn't mistake the stats of the Carrier for a fictional star ship did you?
leviticus ander
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2012-10-01 20:15:52 UTC
Graelyn wrote:
The Enterprise-D seems to be a marauder, a full T2 rebuild of the old idea, with a ton of utility abilities that had never been crammed onto a ship like that before.

If it were the direct star trek equivalent of the marauder, they would need a team of people out there to constantly unplug the pinhole sized sensor openings of dust. And the shields would fail if someone throws a stick at them too hard.
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#45 - 2012-10-01 20:35:32 UTC
Enterprise could use torps while in Warp.
It was OP for sure.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#46 - 2012-10-01 20:53:39 UTC
Ocih wrote:
Enterprise could use torps while in Warp.
It was OP for sure.


Only when the plot demanded it.

If we removed all of the one shot magic technobabble technology that only gets used once then forgotten about then star trek ships become the equivilant of a badly fitted Augoror.
Medarr
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#47 - 2012-10-01 21:09:53 UTC
Graelyn wrote:
Ok, look at relative sizes to the Rest of what was out there, don't compare across universes in terms of size and armament, because EVE and ST have vastly different ideas on how future tech goes....

That said,

NCC-1701 (Constitution) was a registered Heavy Cruiser in Starfleet. (BC). It could fight Klingon d-7 Battlecruiser 1v1 with good balance, depending on Torpedo stores, which was the Fed-edge weapon system.

NCC-1701-B (Excelsior) was at least a half larger than the Connies. (Battleship)

By the time the C came along (Ambassador class), tech had jumped, along with size, with the Excelsiors now as battlecruisers, and the new Ambassadors as Battleships.

So, now watch 'Yesterday's Enterprise', and the difference in size from the C to the D. It actually wasn't that much.

The Enterprise-D seems to be a marauder, a full T2 rebuild of the old idea, with a ton of utility abilities that had never been crammed onto a ship like that before.

Carriers and dreads don't have a lot of help here, since by DS9 era, there were still no Dreadnought vessels (at least in the recognized cannon, SFB and such always had some triple-hulled, 3 nacelle monstrosities to cough at), and the only dedicated carriers in Starfleet were the Akira-class, which are actually closer to the old Constitution-class in size.

The Sovereign-E ?
I don't see a direct comparison...maybe a Machariel...

This is a tricky subject also, not because of size and power, but of speed!
Trek ships did not have speed limits. Everything from the smallest shuttle to Romulan D'Deridex Warbirds could accelerate to .7-.8 lightspeed on impulse, and could turn pretty fast too, thanks to the insane amount of physics-cancelling fields that were always killing inertia or ******* with the way mass worked.

Why did I write all of that? Shocked
[edit: especially when dude wrote some for me at the top of the same page?]


OCTD.. Graelyn?

( Obessive. Compulsive. Trekkie. Disorder )
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#48 - 2012-10-01 22:39:15 UTC
At least on the Enterprise, the doors OPEN. Smile

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#49 - 2012-10-01 23:24:31 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
Well if I remember my Star Trek lore right the NCC-1701 series is a galaxy class exploration vessel, hope that helps.

(Personally I would say something along the lines of the Ishtar.)




In before Nova Fox with more great SOE Exploration ship designs. Lol

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AL RISHA
The Logs Show Nothing
#50 - 2012-10-01 23:35:10 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor says

'At least on the Enterprise, the doors OPEN.'

That's a plus right there ...


Still just a thought on the size of the ships; if I could walk from one end of the ship to the other in a several minutes ... iam sure iam going bored real quick, in my off duty time.

Its kind of like having your work office at the end of your street and thats it , as far as you can walk !
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2012-10-01 23:36:45 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
At least on the Enterprise, the doors OPEN. Smile


Except when they don't Big smile

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MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#52 - 2012-10-02 01:26:32 UTC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bBD5yyT-s0

'Nuff Said.

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Pipa Porto
#53 - 2012-10-02 01:35:41 UTC
Telegram Sam wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
ALCYONE wrote:
Saw this link , not sure if the reative sizes are true; for example I could not image hundreds of people living in only a 400-600 M starship for very long ? Link: http://www.bitrebels.com/geek/size-comparison-of-famous-sci-fi-spaceships-infographics/


A Naval Ship of the 17th-18th Century would carry a crew of hundreds (The HMS Victory carried a crew of 800) while being far smaller than that (The HMS Victory is under 70m long, 15m wide) and be at sea for years. Sailing was the rough equivalent of space flight at the time.

The USS Enterprise is 340m by 80m (max) and carries a complement of up to around 6,000. They don't call them floating cities for nothing.

But 5,990 of those people are redundant. The whole ship can be run by just 10 people: Kirk, Spock, Bones, Scotty, Uhuru, Sulu, Chekhov, and Nurse Chapell. Them, plus two anonymous security guys to get chomped or vaporized on the more dangerous planets.


USS Enterprise. As in the Aircraft Carrier. Not the Space Ship Enterprise. I have no clue how big the Trek frisbee is nor how many people are pretending to be on it.

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-RubyPorto
The Renner
Canadian Operations
#54 - 2012-10-02 03:18:51 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Telegram Sam wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
ALCYONE wrote:
Saw this link , not sure if the reative sizes are true; for example I could not image hundreds of people living in only a 400-600 M starship for very long ? Link: http://www.bitrebels.com/geek/size-comparison-of-famous-sci-fi-spaceships-infographics/


A Naval Ship of the 17th-18th Century would carry a crew of hundreds (The HMS Victory carried a crew of 800) while being far smaller than that (The HMS Victory is under 70m long, 15m wide) and be at sea for years. Sailing was the rough equivalent of space flight at the time.

The USS Enterprise is 340m by 80m (max) and carries a complement of up to around 6,000. They don't call them floating cities for nothing.

But 5,990 of those people are redundant. The whole ship can be run by just 10 people: Kirk, Spock, Bones, Scotty, Uhuru, Sulu, Chekhov, and Nurse Chapell. Them, plus two anonymous security guys to get chomped or vaporized on the more dangerous planets.


USS Enterprise. As in the Aircraft Carrier. Not the Space Ship Enterprise. I have no clue how big the Trek frisbee is nor how many people are pretending to be on it.


Enterprise-D had a crew of around 700-800 (and also carried around 250 or so civilians as I recall)

It had an emergency capacity of around 5000 people.

/nerd mode off.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#55 - 2012-10-02 03:33:21 UTC
I'd like to point out that all Federation ships in Star Trek were science vessels. The only exception was the Defiant, the only warship the Federation ever built, which was pretty obviously a frigate.
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#56 - 2012-10-02 04:10:59 UTC
Quote:
Its length is given as 300 metres (980 ft), and it has a capacity of 100 crew and 850 passengers


It is classified as a cruiser in Star Trek and it can be "retrofitted". The first one was fit for exploration.

Without a doubt it is a t3 cruiser.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#57 - 2012-10-02 12:02:31 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
I'd like to point out that all Federation ships in Star Trek were science vessels. The only exception was the Defiant, the only warship the Federation ever built, which was pretty obviously a frigate.



In fiction, there is always an exception.

In the TNG ep. "Yesterday's Enterprise", it was made quite clear (in the parallel universe) it was an extreme battle-fit ship.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#58 - 2012-10-02 12:04:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
The Renner wrote:


It had an emergency capacity of around 5000 people.

/nerd mode off.


Yes, I remember Picard saying some number slightly above 1,000 on board. Not sure what ep.

edit: this page gives a spec of 1200 crew: http://www.kasper-online.de/en/docs/startrek/ncc1701d.htm

Original Enterprise was 428.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#59 - 2012-10-02 12:23:26 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
At least on the Enterprise, the doors OPEN. Smile


Except when they don't Big smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CSmkym-Stw



lol Funny Pic

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Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#60 - 2012-10-02 14:00:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Akirei Scytale
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
(in the parallel universe)


There you go.

Also, the weapons on Federation ships were ancillary. Take the Defiant - barely larger than a shuttle, but capable of outgunning the Enterprise very easily, if you want to see what a warship looked like by Star Trek standards.