Player Features and Ideas Discussion

so are the torps/cruises going to be looked at more when you do the bs?

I hope there will be a point were most of the stats will be fixed. Hell I'm not buying ships anymore because I don't know how you guys are going to change them...

I'm cross training to a nightmare.(already got caldari bs to 5)

just need ALL the turret skills and ALL the amarr skills.

Well, at least javelin torps will still be usable in missions.

Now if only there were a caldari boat worth fitting them on that wasn't a bomber....hmm.

I'm really hoping torps get a range buff during bs rebalance.

I'm also really hoping that caldari missile bs's won't suck as much after that either...

Fozzie I think you should remember the next days that the new % have as background the t1 statistics, because i see that a lot of people thinks that the 35% dps bonus of the rage and fury missiles = a 35% more dps that now, and that link is a realy nice one to remenber that.
Everyone have to know that the 35% dps bonus of fury and rage munition is now a 29%, and the 72% penalty to the explosion radius it a 71,5% now (" i think"), and it is because like i said they have as background the t1 missiles statistics those changes.

torps dont need more range if anything it needs less as does HAMs which strangely now has same range as torps unusual when its normally the bs that has much more range than the cruisers.
it also begs the question what about stealth bombers?

We'll be changing the descriptions of the missiles formerly known as unguided.

They were already obviously guided, so it clears up an area of confusion as well.

torps is pretty much all stealth bombers have going for them.
well... and a bomb, but once that bomb is launched they've pretty much worn out their welcome and everyone expects them to die anyway.

(they were almost not used this alliance tournament where as last year they were everywhere)

So if I understand the numbers correctly, which doesn't always happen since me and numbers don't get along, then I've got the following impression.

T1/Faction missiles are supposed to be used on ships for the appropriate size weapon system. IE, HML/HAM is for cruiser/BC sized ships.

Precision/Javelin missiles are used for the hull class a level below.

Rage/Fury are for ships a size up.


Which gives missiles a unique flare.


My problem with what I saw is the missiles don't seem to scale the same way as turrets. Why are cruiser sized missiles and BS sized missiles traveling the same distance?

Torps need to have their range boosted in the same progression other weapons follow.



Finally, I think all of the different missile types might be a bit much.

Why not simplify things with standard missiles with a balance of range and damage, velocity missiles with more range and less damage, then warhead missiles with more damage and less range.

Then add in a script for BCS which increases explosion velocity/decreases explosion radius at the cost of reduced damage, and a script which decreases velocity/increases radius at the cost of reduced range. This would allow someone to really customize their target selection with added penalties.

The bonuses of T2 missiles for longrange launchers and T2 missiles for shortrange launchers are different. They can be seen in the OP or on the spreadsheet.

is it confirmed that guided missile precision is now going to affect all missiles?