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Stabber: [New Model] New Fitting - how do you see this shaping up?
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Dread Pirate Pete
Doomheim
#21 - 2012-09-22 15:29:14 UTC
Uris Vitgar wrote:
Heh, with just 2 TEs and 425s it seems the new stabber can get over 40km of falloff,


And now after reading Fozzies ideas that everybody and their dog will be fitting TD's we might actually be able to hit stuff. :D
pyronatic
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-09-22 18:14:03 UTC
the stabber as well as the other cruisers under the "attack cruses" forum post are now being turned into long ships. which i am excited about I've always saw the stabber as a ship that should use arties, and now it looks like it going to be tat way.
Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2012-09-23 00:07:44 UTC
Well i guess a standard fit would be something like this

[Stabber]
Damage Control II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
Large Shield Extender II

220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
'Arbalest' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

391,5 / 425 CPU
891,75 / 893,75 PG
To mare
Advanced Technology
#24 - 2012-09-23 02:34:10 UTC  |  Edited by: To mare
Nalha Saldana wrote:
Well i guess a standard fit would be something like this

[Stabber]
Damage Control II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
Large Shield Extender II

220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
'Arbalest' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

391,5 / 425 CPU
891,75 / 893,75 PG


yep sure a web on a kite long range no tank ship and no neut
Aurelius Valentius
Valentius Corporation
Valentius Corporation Alliance
#25 - 2012-09-23 02:43:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Aurelius Valentius
To mare wrote:
Nalha Saldana wrote:
Well i guess a standard fit would be something like this

[Stabber, Rock Killer Kiting Cruiser
Damage Control II
Lazorstabilizer II
Lazorstabilizer II
Mining Enhancer II [Enzyte perhaps]

10MN MicroWarpdrive II [for chasing the rocks down]
Warp Scrambler II [insures rocks don't warp off]
Stasis Webifier II [slows rock rotation for optimal destruction]
Large Shield Extender II [case rocks throw bits of themselves at you the bastards!]

220mm Vulcan AutoMiner II, Deep Penetration M
220mm Vulcan AutoMiner II, Deep Penetration M
220mm Vulcan AutoMiner II, Deep Penetration M
220mm Vulcan AutoMiner II, Deep Penetration M

Heavy Assault Lazor Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Crystals
Heavy Assault Lazor Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Crystals

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I [against laser using Amarr kernite]
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I [against blaster Rocks... very mean and nasty things]

Miner II Drone [uber yield]



first warp to belt and don't spook the rocks they are likely conspiring to do something... then target and MWD to rock... quickly lock it and fire up the scram and web... then hit it with everything you have


I use mining drones on mine... well mining DRONE... as in singular... pffffft.
Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2012-09-23 09:47:14 UTC
To mare wrote:
Nalha Saldana wrote:
Well i guess a standard fit would be something like this

[Stabber]
Damage Control II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
Large Shield Extender II

220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
'Arbalest' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

391,5 / 425 CPU
891,75 / 893,75 PG


yep sure a web on a kite long range no tank ship and no neut


This isnt a kite fit, its heavy tackle for a gang.
I can post you a kite fit as well.

[Kite Stabber]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption Script
Large Shield Extender II

220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#27 - 2012-09-23 10:38:08 UTC
Personally agree that 1 small drone on a cruiser is pointless. Either do away with them and make it 5 guns, 3 launchers, or make it 6 guns, 2 launchers, or keep them and add at least 2 more for 15m3 min. and make it 5 guns, 2 launchers. = totally random.

P.S. When are we going to get a Bomb Launcher Cruiser? Big smile
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Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2012-09-23 10:49:56 UTC
Mars Theran wrote:
Personally agree that 1 small drone on a cruiser is pointless. Either do away with them and make it 5 guns, 3 launchers, or make it 6 guns, 2 launchers, or keep them and add at least 2 more for 15m3 min. and make it 5 guns, 2 launchers. = totally random.

P.S. When are we going to get a Bomb Launcher Cruiser? Big smile


Thats not going to happend, for balancing reasons you have to choose between:
5 highs, 5 turrets
6 highs, 4 turrets, 2 launchers

Anything else would put them out of balance.
The 4/2 already puts it at about the same dps as 5/0 ships.
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#29 - 2012-09-23 11:06:36 UTC
Nalha Saldana wrote:
Mars Theran wrote:
Personally agree that 1 small drone on a cruiser is pointless. Either do away with them and make it 5 guns, 3 launchers, or make it 6 guns, 2 launchers, or keep them and add at least 2 more for 15m3 min. and make it 5 guns, 2 launchers. = totally random.

P.S. When are we going to get a Bomb Launcher Cruiser? Big smile


Thats not going to happend, for balancing reasons you have to choose between:
5 highs, 5 turrets
6 highs, 4 turrets, 2 launchers

Anything else would put them out of balance.
The 4/2 already puts it at about the same dps as 5/0 ships.


Just saying, I always hated the 1 drone deal. Balance is up to someone else, and I was just throwing things out there. Point is, it should either lose the drones, or get more of them. Whatever is done with turrets and launchers to compensate is based on that decision. Ultimately, 6 highs is enough, and while I didn't mention it, I was sticking with that principle in mind.
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Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2012-09-23 11:14:42 UTC
Mars Theran wrote:
Nalha Saldana wrote:
Mars Theran wrote:
Personally agree that 1 small drone on a cruiser is pointless. Either do away with them and make it 5 guns, 3 launchers, or make it 6 guns, 2 launchers, or keep them and add at least 2 more for 15m3 min. and make it 5 guns, 2 launchers. = totally random.

P.S. When are we going to get a Bomb Launcher Cruiser? Big smile


Thats not going to happend, for balancing reasons you have to choose between:
5 highs, 5 turrets
6 highs, 4 turrets, 2 launchers

Anything else would put them out of balance.
The 4/2 already puts it at about the same dps as 5/0 ships.


Just saying, I always hated the 1 drone deal. Balance is up to someone else, and I was just throwing things out there. Point is, it should either lose the drones, or get more of them. Whatever is done with turrets and launchers to compensate is based on that decision. Ultimately, 6 highs is enough, and while I didn't mention it, I was sticking with that principle in mind.


Well giving it 4 or 5 drones combined with that speed would make it very powerful, i think this is how it pays for that extra speed. Maybe they should remove that one drone slot but i dont mind it.
Bouh Revetoile
In Wreck we thrust
#31 - 2012-09-23 12:14:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Bouh Revetoile
People should realize that two missile launchers are better than one 25% rof bonused turret in terms of dps. If not, just train your skills.

BTW, missiles and turrets will both benefit from TE/TC...

PS for the drone : salvage drone ! How can you spit on such a thing !
Sirinda
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
#32 - 2012-09-30 07:30:08 UTC
Bouh Revetoile wrote:
People should realize that two missile launchers are better than one 25% rof bonused turret in terms of dps. If not, just train your skills.

BTW, missiles and turrets will both benefit from TE/TC...

PS for the drone : salvage drone ! How can you spit on such a thing !


Just saying a 25% bonus to ROF is more than a 25% damage bonus. In fact, it ends up being a 33.3% bonus. Run the numbers yourself if you don't believe me.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#33 - 2012-10-01 08:13:04 UTC
"how will it work, with split weapon systems?"

Er. Cyclone, anyone?

Just need to train your skills up. So, yes, it will be difficult to fit and fly, but it will be the new FOTM T1 cruiser because it fits precisely into the mould of the current nano-lite doctrine of Speed Is King. Pity everyone will likely just try slapping in 2 neuts because it's better to train more omber processing than it is to train missiles.

The fits, posted above, are hilarious. You will want as many TE's as possible and an RCU so you can fit T2 HAMs, and make use of Javs and Barrage. Remember, the TE's will bonus BOTH WEAPON SYSTEMS.

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Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2012-10-01 10:21:07 UTC
Trinkets friend wrote:
"how will it work, with split weapon systems?"

Er. Cyclone, anyone?

Just need to train your skills up. So, yes, it will be difficult to fit and fly, but it will be the new FOTM T1 cruiser because it fits precisely into the mould of the current nano-lite doctrine of Speed Is King. Pity everyone will likely just try slapping in 2 neuts because it's better to train more omber processing than it is to train missiles.

The fits, posted above, are hilarious. You will want as many TE's as possible and an RCU so you can fit T2 HAMs, and make use of Javs and Barrage. Remember, the TE's will bonus BOTH WEAPON SYSTEMS.


Well post a fit of your own then, I just made some up because no one else could do some simple math.
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