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How uncatchable can a Loki get?
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Gabrielle Lamb
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-09-30 00:19:43 UTC
Basically I currently got a cheetah as a probing and scouting alt. Figured I'd look in to the Loki instead though cause the whole exploration thing is going pretty well. Basically, how uncatchable can I get a Loki compared to the cheetah?

Never actually used Warp Core Stabs or Interdiction Nullifiers before so I'd appreciate if someone could fill me in on the basics and logics of how to fit these ships. Basically it's just for probing and being an advance scout at gates so damage is not really needed at all. I'm guessing the biggest advantage to this will be that I won't have any trouble with drag bubbles.
Tamiya Sarossa
Resistance is Character Forming
#2 - 2012-09-30 05:44:56 UTC
Dictor nullifier and covert ops subs means you essentially don't have to worry about anything but the most on-the-ball camps with decloaking inties, which are a definite rarity. If you don't care about damage or tank, go for as many lows as you can and fit 3-4 nanos with the rest stabs in case you get really unlucky. Grav capacitor rigs in the low for probing and you're good to go.

To be honest, a Loki fit like this is way more un-catchable than a cheetah. Your main point of vulnerability in a cheetah is burning off a bubbled gate, and the dictor nullifier solves this. Barring lag issues or incredibly poor luck, you won't lose it.
Tasiv Deka
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-09-30 07:28:55 UTC
Tamiya Sarossa wrote:
Dictor nullifier and covert ops subs means you essentially don't have to worry about anything but the most on-the-ball camps with decloaking inties, which are a definite rarity. If you don't care about damage or tank, go for as many lows as you can and fit 3-4 nanos with the rest stabs in case you get really unlucky. Grav capacitor rigs in the low for probing and you're good to go.

To be honest, a Loki fit like this is way more un-catchable than a cheetah. Your main point of vulnerability in a cheetah is burning off a bubbled gate, and the dictor nullifier solves this. Barring lag issues or incredibly poor luck, you won't lose it.


This actually about the only way to make it anymore uncatchable is never undock it.

Oh, Do go on... no seriously ive got nothing better to do then listen to all the petty arguments and feeble trolling attempts... 

The sad thing is i'm not sure if i'm telling the truth.
Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC
#4 - 2012-10-01 06:45:06 UTC
Comes down to the fact, is it worth 500+ mil just to warp through bubbles?

Its going to die the same way the Cheetah would, gate lag, fast locker etc etc and has no way of defending itself.

I say stick with the cheetah if you are not going to combat fit the loki or tank it at all.
Nestara Aldent
Citimatics
#5 - 2012-10-01 07:47:50 UTC
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Gabrielle Lamb
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-10-01 13:33:12 UTC
Gibbo3771 wrote:
Comes down to the fact, is it worth 500+ mil just to warp through bubbles?

Its going to die the same way the Cheetah would, gate lag, fast locker etc etc and has no way of defending itself.

I say stick with the cheetah if you are not going to combat fit the loki or tank it at all.


Money is not really an issue, exploration keeps my wallet borderline obese. ;p
AdZc
Legio Prima Victrix
#7 - 2012-10-01 17:09:17 UTC  |  Edited by: AdZc
IIRC you can get better scanning out of the T3s (dont quote me on that, i think it cos you can fit more scanning rigs at work so cant check my own loki) but as a combat scout to get tackle on a target it will be fine, yes its more expensive but more survivable.

I dont put WCS on mines as its used as a combat scout. If you are just scannign down sites but not people stick to a cov ops, its cheaper if you did get caught.

But yea anything cov ops is generally uncatchable your more likely to get caught in WHs if your unlucky and after the jump you are less than 2km from the WH.

TLDR- If you have the cash then got for it!

Here is a fit to have a look at

[Loki, Cloaky PVP]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Damage Control II

10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Warp Disruptor II
Stasis Webifier II

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Hail M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Hail M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Hail M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Hail M
Expanded Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I

Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I

Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Loki Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Loki Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Loki Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
Loki Propulsion - Interdiction Nullifier





Stats from a char (probably outdated and better by now.

DPS - 181/255 OH
EHP - 78257
Range - 1.3+5.3
resists - 87.7/80.4/70.6/75.5
Speed - 281m/s / 1663m/s MWD
Cap Stable all mods cept MWD, on (78%)
Gabrielle Lamb
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-10-01 19:28:41 UTC
Nah, rigs are 200 calibration points each so if anything Loki is likely to be a slightly worse scanner.
AdZc
Legio Prima Victrix
#9 - 2012-10-02 14:54:57 UTC  |  Edited by: AdZc
2xT2 rigs? + the SS bonus?
CorInaXeraL
The Dresdeneers
#10 - 2012-10-02 15:08:38 UTC
According to this there are ways to make the uncatchable very catchable.

Just don't do what the victim in the above-posted thread did.